Liverpool FC: Slotting Out

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outlawz

Southgate's waistcoat knitter
He has been brilliant for Bournemouth. A really good coach who plays fantastic football. He had no business finishing so high with them even after he lost a lot of his best players.

However going from a small club to a big one everything changes. This is the part where countless potentially great managers fall down. It can't be underestimated what high expectations and pressure does to a manager.

There are so many examples of managers who seemed the be elite manager at a smaller club only to move to a bigger club and fail miserably. I thought Potter was a great manager at Brighton but when he moved to higher pressure roles he crumbled. Similarly I thought Frank was doing miracles at Brentford but when he moved to Sp**s he looked a different man. Moyes is another one. The thing is you can go on a bad run at a small club and no one bats an eyelid, which means you get the time and space to find a solution. At Bournemouth earlier in the season he went on a long winless run, that isn't a problem because the expectations are fairly low. When he went on a long unbeaten run he rightly got all the plaudits. Lose 2 or 3 games in a row at a big club and suddenly everyone is talking if you should be sacked, out of your depth, and won't get a minute without someone in the media/pundit/ex players questioning your methods and thus pressure building and building. And once you are in a little spin it is extremely hard to get back from that position.

Just to give you an example in difference in viewpoints. Bournemouth had their best ever season, their win percentage was still 35%. Slot was fired and everyone agreed he wasn't good enough for Liverpool. His league record reads 55% win percentage. Granted Liverpool has better players then Bournemouth so should be able to win more but this highlights the pressure free environment in a small club.

Ultimately not many managers are able to successfully make that step. Even someone like Emery who is in some ways a brilliant tactician has never been able to handle a big club. Give him medium or small club and he will produce miracles but the dynamics are completely different in the biggest clubs and he has never been able to overcome this.

Of course Iraola could turn out to be that rare manager who can handle this step up but history suggest it is quite rare. So I would advice you not to panic yet that he is going to sweep everything. Will be interesting though to revisit this thread exactly a year later and see how he has done.

This should be reposted. Amazing how easily people fall for managers who outperform at mid or lower table clubs.
 

gunman90

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Country: England
This may sound insane. But does anyone think Nunez would be a good option for us as backup/rotation. Granted he is a donkey in many ways, but he is ridiculously athletic and he creates loads of chances. Can play on the wing too. We could loan him.
 

Rasmi

Negative Nancy Deluxe

Country: England
This may sound insane. But does anyone think Nunez would be a good option for us as backup/rotation. Granted he is a donkey in many ways, but he is ridiculously athletic and he creates loads of chances. Can play on the wing too. We could loan him.
No. He’s just taking up space. We need upgrade in striker position. Not another backup.
 

Sulosky

Well-Known Member

Country: Finland
Today my heart was shattered. My godson and nephew supports Liverpool. And I really tried to buy him Arsenal merch. His father supports Barcelona, so there’s been enough rotten soil there that I probably shouldn’t have expected anything else. Well, no point wondering anymore about taking him to London to watch a match.
 

Kuroske

Well-Known Member
Today my heart was shattered. My godson and nephew supports Liverpool. And I really tried to buy him Arsenal merch. His father supports Barcelona, so there’s been enough rotten soil there that I probably shouldn’t have expected anything else. Well, no point wondering anymore about taking him to London to watch a match.
You can still fix them, as those preferences are not ingrained by heritage. I assume they do not live in the Liverpool area, so there is no strong connection to where they grew up either.

Take them to the museum and a match. Spoil them with Arsenal merchandise, fatty food and sugary drinks. By the time they get home, all they'll be talking about is how great the experience was.
 

Arsenal7104

Member

Country: England
You'll never walk alone 'la....unless you see out the contract you signed (Trent) or we just don't like you anymore (despite winning the league).
 

Yousif Arsenal

Was on Vinai's payroll; misses 4th place trophy 🏆
Glad he's gone there.

Means Barcola will move to Liverpool or, hopefully, Chelsea.

If he goes to work for Alonso it means we might see him at the carpet in two years time!
They'll probably go for Barcola there not many good options as LW
 

field442

Hates Journalists Named James
Barcola hasn't been mentioned as one of their other options.

Brighton & Hove Albion’s Yankuba Minteh, Said El Mala of FC Koln and Lille’s Matias Fernandez-Pardo are among those being considered.
 

MikelHadADream

Quasimodo

Country: England

Player:Gyökeres
Liverpools season seems to be resting on getting something from Wirtz and Isak.

I do think Iraola is one of the best possible coaches to do that though.
 

Goonger

Established Member

Country: Scotland
Liverpool wanted Diomande to play on the right. He's was the Salah replacement they wanted. There is an even more dearth of talent for the right wing than there is for the left. If they go for Barcola, he's better on the left. They already have Munoz, Gakpo and Rio who prefer that side.
 

MikelHadADream

Quasimodo

Country: England

Player:Gyökeres
Liverpool need a RW and although Barcola can play there, he’s obviously suited to the left.

Not sure what other RW options there are currently on the market? The Salah succession hasn’t really gone to plan has it.
 

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