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Manchester City vs Arsenal| Saturday 17th October 17:30| Sky Sports

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by Rex Banter, Oct 7, 2020.

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What will the result be?

Poll closed Oct 17, 2020.
  1. Arsenal win

    44.6%
  2. Draw

    28.7%
  3. Manchester City win

    26.7%
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  1. Finesse

    Finesse Well-Known Member

    Again this is the opportunity cost of our new found hard to beat accolade. Word on the street is they look solid now , Arteta got them working hard and they defend as a team. Excellent if you ask me. In addition for the very first time we finished a game in Manchester still thinking we were in it and could nick a draw instead of the usual praying for the ref to stop our misery / no need for extra time.

    However this alone has been Arteta’s work for all these months. Bringing everyone to shape and line. From the strikers right to defence. 120% as he prescribed. This has taken away inventive freedom. Every chance now looks choreographed and lacking in genuine freedom. Only Saka has the spark and genuine freedom in his decision making. The rest look worried to try or making sure they keep to the scripts.

    West Ham and Sheffield United could have gone sideways for most part of the game. This is a genuine assessment. Arteta is still trying to keep the shape and create more. I can see why he brought Willian as the false 9 to bring in Auba and Pepe. I don’t recall him doing any of that all game. Auba taking 6 shots in 5 full games is a worry we must address.

    To what extent do we sacrifice structure and shape to become more inventive and create more?

    Yes what if we scored from the 2 we created yesterday! Fine , what if they scored from all they created too? We are hanging on chances missed because we are getting used to the fact we don’t create a lot and not because the opponents defence is too good.
     
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  2. Troopz

    Troopz Established Member

    :rofl:

    Straight facts.
     
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  3. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    We have a manager in his first full season who has consistently demonstrated that he favours a cautious approach. I think he got aspects of this particular game wrong, but more than happy with Arteta in general at the moment.

    Yes Wenger was great, we acknowledge that. But we are here now, so let’s push on and leave the past behind lest it cloud our future.

    Happy Sunday! COYG.
     
  4. HairSprayGooners

    HairSprayGooners Dr. Pangloss

    Liverpools xG was much lower than Cities last season wasn't it? Yet they won the league at a canter.

    xG is the biggest load of rubbish because so many things can happen within a game of football. So many variables that ultimately make it incredibly pointless. For example if we got a penalty yesterday the xG would've still been in cities favour yet we would've got a positive result. You see what I mean?

    It doesn't take a genius to see we have less creativity in the side than City does it? Not sure why xG needs to be spoken about to be honest. Just watch the game with a decent brain.

    xG was created with good intentions but the way people harp on about it is embarrassing. I fully expected someone like you to be all for it tho.
     
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  5. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    The ref have to do something with man city players stop counters by fouling and they shouldn't get away with it it happen many times yesterday and refs just don't book them. It's ridiculous how many times they got away with it.
     
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  6. Troopz

    Troopz Established Member

    Yeah, I noticed it.

    Clearly Guardiola was trying to disrupt our counter attacks with all those tactical fouls, I expect Jose Mourinho to do the same thing when we play against Sp**s.

    Arteta clearly needs to fix these tactics as even when we’re kicking the ball long to Aubameyang there are hardly any options further up the pitch. Like I said in one of my other posts, Lacazette came on to play as a midfielder rather than a striker as his positioning towards the end was really deep.
     
  7. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Yes they stopped us because our players slow in transition unlike Leicester when they destroyed Man city in counters because they have quick players and hard to foul i think with Partey here it'll be more difficult for teams to foul us and we need to put pressure at refs.
     
  8. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    That’s all it should be about. She’s not officiating as ‘the lady Lino for today’ and nobody can say Aguero only did that because she’s a female. Since when did Sharia law make it into the PL?! No hands on the officials, simple.
     
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  9. Breezy

    Breezy Well-Known Member

    Have to say Ruben Dias seemed very impressive. Looks a good signing for City.
     
  10. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Why are people surprised at our poor away record against the top 6 since 2015? This has been our toughest period with Wenger coming to an end, and then having 2 new managers. You’re not going away and beating top teams when you’re in transition like this. Add bad investment and squad build to this.

    Records like this are only a concern when your club is stable. It will become an issue for Arteta by next season if Arteta doesn’t improve it, given he’s viewed as a top coach and the bulk of the team will be his own.
     
  11. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Comes On Here To Get Fat Shamed Trusted

    Quality posting yet again.
     
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  12. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Don’t encourage him in his quest for Trusted status ffs. And don’t you try and reinvent yourself as a sensible person either. I see you both wallahi.
     
  13. Riou

    Riou A-M's Resident Jobber

    It was just weird what Aguero did.

    You should treat both men and women the same, but you should never put your hands on a woman (bar maybe grabbing their hands to stop them if they are trying to hit you or something) not that Aguero hit her or anything, but it was just weird as I say...don't know what he was trying to do.

    Pep's defence of him though...

    "Sergio is the nicest guy in the world, focus on other situations"

    ...Pep is such a dodgy gimp :lol:
     
  14. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Thanks, means a lot coming from a great member of this forum like yourself.
     
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  15. Tosker

    Tosker Does Not Hate Foreigners

    can't resist butting in, being female myself - I think Wrighty got it right when he called it patronizing rather than intimidating, and rather than being sexual it looked a bit like an unspoken 'come off it dear, what do you know about the rules of football'

    so there was a gender element but not punishable, imo, and hopefully the criticism will be a bit of a wake-up call for Aguero and any fellow dinosaurs - of which I'm sure there are many, aren't there, Pep?
     
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  16. Dennis_Bergkamp_10

    Dennis_Bergkamp_10 Well-Known Member

    Hard to watch us play nowadays. In a game vs City without fans and without KdB you'd hope we'd take more initiative. Sadly we don't, we look worse than Leeds going here.

    Bellerin is a goddamn awful player btw.
     
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  17. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

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    Pep is a ****ing mad man. Say what you want about him, but how on earth does he come up with something like this? This is why I think people put too much stock in formations and **** like that, ask anyone what formation City play and they'll say 4-3-3 yet look at this and it tells a completely different story.
     
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  18. Monstar-Gunn4r

    Monstar-Gunn4r Well-Known Member

    Tbf to him players grab officials all the time, pats on the back etc.
     
  19. Kysus

    Kysus Well-Known Member

    My god people are result-oriented clowns, hurts to read.

    We win against City, Pool and Chelsea in really tight contests with small margins - > Arteta is the greatest

    We lose against Pool and City in similiar games - >We suck, Arteta sucks, We are so far off, way too negative, should create 10 top-class chances, should play like Aston Villa instead, Let's hire Mourinho(I will NOT forget that the majority of the forum wanted that clown)
     
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  20. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    I was pleased with our attacking intent in the first half. We pressed City high up the pitch and got at them. Created good chances but should’ve created more. Auba and Pepe were disappointing they were not fluid and broke up attacks. I think we tired in the second half, both teams did.

    By the way, Leicester then lost 3-0 to West Ham. I’m glad that’s not us.
     
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