Manchester City’s Financial Doping

[Riou]

I truly hate people like this.

 

[Batman]

I truly hate people like this.

Especially because you know that if his club didn't have a sugar daddy, he would be making racist comments about the Arabs ruining English football.

 

[El Duderino]

I think if it wasn't a possibility we wouldn't be seeing this foundational attack. My own logic suggests it wouldn't be necessary. Its like going to court over a period of months because someone has overcharged you £50.

I don't see them doing it out of fear of being relegated, it's just normal/expected posturing from a club like City who've financially doped their way into success.

Of course they're going to threaten the FA with the FA losing money, money is what the FA loves the most.

People are quick to point out "but Juve got relegated!", but remember that a) there was a criminal element to that whole situation with people going to jail over Calciopoli and b) it was result manipulation and not "clever" bookkeeping.

Again, I just don't see how they relegate City over this. Mind, I wouldn't be against it, as it would be funny as all hell, but I honestly don't see it happening.

The worst I see happening, other than a heavy fine and a transfer ban, is a point deduction for next season and even that is a stretch.

 

[lomekian]

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City would have sued UEFA 10 years ago. Uefa brought charges against them but backed down & a small slap on the wrist compromise that favoured City was reached.

UEFA wanted to nail them but a) made an error in their case that the CAS became obsessed with and b) ran out of time vis a vis their own statute of limitations for the really bad stuff

 

[MauveGunner]

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[lomekian]

I don't see them doing it out of fear of being relegated, it's just normal/expected posturing from a club like City who've financially doped their way into success.

Of course they're going to threaten the FA with the FA losing money, money is what the FA loves the most.

People are quick to point out "but Juve got relegated!", but remember that a) there was a criminal element to that whole situation with people going to jail over Calciopoli and b) it was result manipulation and not "clever" bookkeeping.

Again, I just don't see how they relegate City over this. Mind, I wouldn't be against it, as it would be funny as all hell, but I honestly don't see it happening.

The worst I see happening, other than a heavy fine and a transfer ban, is a point deduction for next season and even that is a stretch.

Depends what they are found guilty of. Were it just failing to comply with the rules it would a points deduction and possible 1 season transfer ban. If they get found guilty of the other charges (deliberately fabricating accounts, refusing to hand over information every club has to as part of their agreement with the EPL, illegal payments to players, managers and agents, deliberate refusal to participate with the investigation despite being contractually obliged to do so, multiple spurious court cases even before this one etc etc), there will be no option to either relegate them or say that they cannot participate in the EPL under the same ownership. At least.

The more they up the anti, the more cataclysmic the punishment will need to be.

Ultimately, though, as far as sportswashing goes, the owners really haven't got value for money. Because they don't understand that it takes decades to really cement a brand in sporting terms, and their actions actually undermine their own exercise. Sure, they've grown the fan base exponentially, and have a few million brainwashed converts globally, but the further they go, the more it cements everyone else against them, and not just fans of UK teams either...it could end up being far more damaging for their PR and prestige than never getting involved at all.

 

[Blankety Blank]

UEFA wanted to nail them but a) made an error in their case that the CAS became obsessed with and b) ran out of time vis a vis their own statute of limitations for the really bad stuff

If they are found guilty & got a big punishment from the Prem Is there an appeal process & who would that be directed towards?

Could CAS get involved again?

Would it just keep rumbling on?

People in the media have to be careful what they say for threat of legal action but for both Uefa & the Prem league to want to prosecute the club kinda says it all.

They don't want to do this to member clubs. All they want is for sports teams to play by the rules.

But let's be honest many people feel they already circumvented the rules by making out they are not state funded.

They have shown by not being forthcoming in assisting any investigation by Uefa or the PL like say Everton/Forest did they think they can do whatever they want & are beyond regulating.

 

[RandomHero84]

I don't see them doing it out of fear of being relegated, it's just normal/expected posturing from a club like City who've financially doped their way into success.

Of course they're going to threaten the FA with the FA losing money, money is what the FA loves the most.

People are quick to point out "but Juve got relegated!", but remember that a) there was a criminal element to that whole situation with people going to jail over Calciopoli and b) it was result manipulation and not "clever" bookkeeping.

Again, I just don't see how they relegate City over this. Mind, I wouldn't be against it, as it would be funny as all hell, but I honestly don't see it happening.

The worst I see happening, other than a heavy fine and a transfer ban, is a point deduction for next season and even that is a stretch.

There is a major scaling issue on the contravention and punishments it it's just a slap on the wrist. Everton and Forest punishment were pretty direct and harsh. Could have easily cost them the clubs future stability.

The optics of a minor slap on the wrist here would be just awful. Completely detonating the premier leagues reputation.

I already think it sits really badly to have points deduction asterisks all over the place. The premier league to be the best league in the world or even a good league, requires it's league table to be directly representative of results in games, and built on a bedrock of clear rules.

Otherwise just none of us are going to care. That will be the consequence of a slap on the wrist.

 

[A_G]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1798670476891549937

 

[albakos]

They’re going the crayons route? They must realize they’re cooked. Where is that City fan who claimed he wanted to be relegated?

@Elliot Houghton

 

[db10_therza]

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Football's Financial Arms Race Just Went Nuclear

 

[albakos]

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Football's Financial Arms Race Just Went Nuclear

Yes, not everyone is willing to pay for Michael Bloomberg's next mansion, but there was an archived version available

https://archive.ph/9qS1K

 

[jones]

The best part is nobody really cared about the cheating until City turned the PL into the farmer's league with 4 in a row.
The PL deserve Man City, it's too late to get on the high horse now.

Best post I've read here in a long time, absolutely nailed it. The PL has been a deeply corrupt organisation and product since inception, City are just the most brazen about it but everyone pisses owner money down the drain in England. Do we even have clubs not owned by a billionaire left in the league?

If we can't win the title I hope City get ten in a row. Nuke the league and start from scratch.

 

[Gooner Zig]

The analysis that other big clubs spend as much as City nowadays forgets the fact that City can have £100m Graelish rot on the bench like it's no ****ing biggie; they can completely balls up £50+m signings in Philips and Nunes and it doesn't matter.

They are the only club who can afford to **** up transfers like that. It gives them a huge competitive advantage + the eye watering wage bill advantage they have over us.

 

[Red London]

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I would not bat an eyelid if people like this vanished. Natural selection at its finest.

 

[Red London]

The best part is nobody really cared about the cheating until City turned the PL into the farmer's league with 4 in a row.
The PL deserve Man City, it's too late to get on the high horse now.

I can speak for myself in saying I’ve been pissed off about Man City for a long time and Chelsea before that. Unfortunately the media never spoke about it at all and therefore sheep just lived with it because they need to see something gather momentum in the media, press, or directly from the PL through a court case to actually start speaking up.

 

[Batman]

The analysis that other big clubs spend as much as City nowadays forgets the fact that City can have £100m Graelish rot on the bench like it's no ****ing biggie; they can completely balls up £50+m signings in Philips and Nunes and it doesn't matter.

They are the only club who can afford to **** up transfers like that. It gives them a huge competitive advantage + the eye watering wage bill advantage they have over us.

Not to mention their dodgy agent fees like the tens of millions they gave Haaland's father (that we know about). Look at what they're doing with Pep's brother running Girona and all of the shady perks he's getting and imagine what they do under the table.

 

[GDeep™]

Arsenal fans didn’t care about 115 until last year. I would argue the biggest corruption to affect us, took place in the late 90’s and early 2000’s where we were clearly robbed by referees. Would say we lost 3 titles due to dodgy officials.

 

[Macho]

Arsenal fans didn’t care about 115 until last year. I would argue the biggest corruption to affect us, took place in the late 90’s and early 2000’s where we were clearly robbed by referees. Would say we lost 3 titles due to dodgy officials.

These guys want to be the only club allowed to sign Rice for £100m. They are ok with the Utd and Chelsea spending as long as they remain sh*t basically.

 

[A_G]

Arsenal fans didn’t care about 115 until last year.

First post of this thread was in 2011. Arsenal fans cared about financial doping before we competed with them.