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Manchester City’s Financial Doping

Black240

Active Member
He's part of the reason they been so successful/well run no?

Best case scenario is he smells blood on the water re: 115 but another plausible scenario is he now knows for sure Guardiola is leaving and thinks the rebuild is going to be tough. Good thing either way.

Don't know why'd you'd leave a cushy job at a dominating side otherwise. It's not like he'd get more money somewhere else.
Perhaps he will be a heavily compensated scapegoat when the final verdict is announced.
 

SuperGoon

Lost A Bet And Now He’s A Top G

Country: Ireland

Player:Saka
Chelsea and Newcastle I get.

Why Nottingham?? Have they done dodgy deals too??
 

lufere7

Active Member

Player:Martinelli
Chelsea and Newcastle I get.

Why Nottingham?? Have they done dodgy deals too??
Their owner also owns Olympiacos. They've had PSR problems so they're probably licking their lips after seeing how Chelsea and City are abusing their sister clubs to cook the books.
 

Menard

Active Member

Country: USA
Reckon they're cooked. At least one title coming our way via retrospective points deduction and then at the very least a heavy enough deduction this season to take them out of any title race. Glory to the red cartel.
 

MartiSaka

Join my "Occupy A-M" movement here 🗳
I finally have an understanding of the main points of the findings and their potential outcomes. Seems to be a better outcome for the PL than city; surely the small ammendments that need to be made to APT wont make the entire rule set void, as city is attempting to suggest. This seems to be their motivation to have a line of argument that says as "one rule had to be changed, all of APT is irrefutably unfair and illegal."

Thats all they got. Otherwise, the PL just has to give city the opportunity to respond to their findings around the 2 rejected sponsorships, which they can then proceed to reject again. The inclusion of share holder loans as part of APT doesnt really help city either.
 
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Big Poppa

Established Member

Country: USA

Player:Saliba
Great explanation of what has happened today. Doesn't sound like a big City win that some of the media are trying to create.

Surely Sky Sports can afford to hire a legitimate sports lawyer to explain these issues, rather than trotting out Kaveh to spew platitudes and overcompensate with vague, repetitive commentary, all while cosplaying as some sort of football oracle with insider knowledge.
 

Let's play Aubamawang

Well-Known Member
Really sounds like 115 are showing their irrefutable evidence of their innocence as they suggested they would - they are hardly contesting the charges by the sounds of it.
They probably know they'll get relegated and not contesting might limit their punishment somehow. Or they hoped to void all of APT and thought it would somehow help their case in suggesting PSR is inherently flawed, hence the conspiracy theory defence.
 

Big Poppa

Established Member

Country: USA

Player:Saliba
I finally have an understanding of the main points of the findings and their potential outcomes. Seems to be a better outcome for the PL than city; surely the small ammendments that need to be made to APT wont make the entire rule set void, as city is attempting to suggest. This seems to be their motivation to have a line of argument that says as "one rule had to be changed, all of APT is irrefutably unfair and illegal."

Thats all they got. Otherwise, the PL just has to give city the opportunity to respond to their findings around the 2 rejected sponsorships, which they can then proceed to reject again. The inclusion of share holder loans as part of APT doesnt really help city either.
More than one thing can be true I guess. City will rightly feel vindicated that their argument about specific aspects of the APT rules are unlawful. While the Premier League are rightly focusing on the tribunal’s findings that the supervisory framework they’ve set out has been effectively endorsed.

It’s like someone who was denied planning permission to build a skyscraper in their backyard claiming victory because the it was found that the application form was missing a few questions.
 

outlawz

Southgate's waistcoat knitter
They are really rattled
Man City accuse Premier League of 'misleading' clubs over tribunal verdict

This letter is act of desperation.

From another forum:
Writing to the other clubs because the PL, BBC, and most other outlets besides their own propaganda sphere, don't agree with their framing of the verdict as a total victory for City is absurd. This wreaks of a toddler throwing a tantrum (which I'm not surprised that a monarchy would react this way).

By any objective measure they lost the case, the points in which they won were not even things they wanted.

Instead of finding APT (associated party transaction) rules to be unlawful and getting rid of them the rules have been upheld and will be strengthened to include loans which they themselves voted to exclude from the rules, along with the majority of the league.

FMV (fair market value) has also been upheld with the shift being that burden of proof lies with the Premier League and not clubs, which is a healthy step forward in terms of transparency and equality anyway (thanks City).


If City claim that their objective all along was to shift burden of proof regarding FMV, and everything else was a smokescreen, then yea, they won, but nobody believes that, they got the opposite of what they wanted, even their petty claims of discrimination against gulf state owned clubs was dismissed.
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Every PL club with interest free loan (or loan with small interest rate), one of them is Arsenal, hate them now more than before.
It's a fair outcome. If City are to be blocked from sponsorship deals because they are above FMV, then it's also fair that shareholder loans that are interest free aren't allowed as they aren't FMV. So good job City for making the rules fairer, even if it adversely impacts us.
 

Country: Slovakia
Trying to catch up on the proceedings and this is how I feel after reading the last 3 pages on this thread:
Explain It Season 5 GIF by The Office
 

HattoriHanzo

Well-Known Member

Country: Croatia
The only thing I need explaining is why other leagues with one or two competitive teams are called farmers leagues whilst the Prem seems to be exempt from this. Mind you I bring this up with City bending the very rules of them Prem to suit them as we speak.

If Prem teams were dominating Euro comps I wouldn't even ask this, but yes this snobbery needs to be studied.
They are not exempt, they are more farmers league than La Liga, Serie A, even Bundesliga.
In Spain there are 2 and a half teams (Real, Barcelona, the half is Atletico)
In Italy you have at least 3 (Juve, Inter, Milan), Napoli is now no. 4.
In Budesliga there is now Leverkusen, with Bayern.

Prem is in line with Ligue 1. In France is PSG, in England is City.
When you see what is City doing in Prem, suing, bullying, threatening other clubs and even league, who can tell me that this is not farmers league?
Why are they allowed to do this?
Their brazenness is shocking.
After verdict about APT rules, they sent a letter to other 19 clubs and to Prem, telling them how they should interpret this verdict.

And they threat that they will continue with this behaviour.
When Prem allowed to Abu Dhabi to own the club, they have allowed fox to enter the chicken house.
Really bad look for Prem.

I think that this will reach the point where this abomination of the club will be expelled.
Or the other clubs will create new breakaway league without them and their crony clubs (Chelsea, Newcastle, Everton, Forest)
 

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