Marcus Rashford MBE

[drippin]

I disagree, based purely on the importance of those games. We’re talking about 6 pointers in the league or latter stage of champions league.

Arsenal has fared very well against top teams.

You cannot expect to get taken seriously if you don’t think we need threat on the counter. Almost all the forum were bemoaning our lack of pace at times this season.

Of course we need another winger with proper pace. I just see it more important to reinforce the total squad, than going for a silly risky expensive buy like Rashford this window. I prefer using more money elsewhere, starting from Guimaraes.

Trossard and Jesus are staying this year, so it's better to keep that winger position more open and go for a proper fast top winger next summer when these guys might leave. The squad is pretty complete at that point.

I’m also not sure about the buses comment anyway -Someone like Rashford is not brought into break down the bus, he’s brought into score the goal at the end of the move that sliced through the bus. He is a very good finisher and has good off the ball movement.

Do you know that during the time that Rashford has played more for United (not counting his first seasons as I give him that time to adjust), he has equaled his npxG?

If Rashford is a very good finisher, then you must have also thought that Havertz is a very good finisher as he has also equaled his npxG apart from only the last Chelsea season?

 

[Dokaka]

It's actually incredible how much chatter a simple "Arteta and Rashford have talked" has generated.

Not a single reputable outlet bas reported the interest btw.
(Having said that, strangely the usual suspects haven't denied it either, is there a bomba incoming?)

I mean tbf, you don't really need a strong link to discuss the pros and cons of signing a player. It's just fun.

 

[db10_therza]

If Rashford is a very good finisher, then you must have also though that Havertz is a very good finisher as he has also equaled his npxG apart from only the last Chelsea season?

What is Rahsford’s G vs npxG if you also exclude his last season? Can’t do that for one and not the other…

And anyway I’m not sure why on earth you’re bringing Havertz into this I’ve never said he’s a bad finisher and have been very happy with him up front? In fact I’ve been on record saying we don’t need to buy a striker but your DESPERATE for one so maybe it’s you that doesn’t rate Havertz…

Since you have brought him up, Rashford can finish chances that Havertz physically couldn’t and that’s the difference. Havertz cannot lace a ball into the top corner for 25 yards out. Doesn’t make him a bad player but it does mean that Marcus has certain qualities that we are missing in the squad which is all most people are saying here.

 

[drippin]

What is Rahsford’s G vs npxG if you also exclude his last season? Can’t do that for one and not the other…

From 18/19 to 22/23 his npxG was 0.38 per 90 min and np-Goals was 0.40 per 90 min. So basically equal.

Have people forgot those times he couldn't hit a barn door? He has ups and downs. That's why his name is Purplepatchford.

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And anyway I’m not sure why on earth you’re bringing Havertz into this I’ve never said he’s a bad finisher and have been very happy with him up front? In fact I’ve been on record saying we don’t need to buy a striker.l but your DESPERATE for one so maybe it’s you that doesn’t rate Havertz…

Because I assume you wasn't convinced by my posts in the Havertz transfer thread when I pointed it out.

And because it's just a funny example how the impressions of players can be misleading if one doesn't look at stats at all. If you say that for Rashford, then you must consider how you view Havertz. Now he has gone back to equaling his npxG.

Since you have brought him up, Rashford can finish chances that Havertz physically couldn’t and that’s the difference. Havertz cannot lace a ball into the top corner for 25 yards out. Doesn’t make him a bad player but it does mean that Marcus has certain qualities that we are missing in the squad which is all most people are saying here.

This season Havertz was very close to scoring from that distance, missed by maybe 0,5 metres with a strong shot. So he is capable of it. But of course Rashford is one of the best power long shooters, so there is no comparison. But also Havertz doesn't even try it often.

 

[Sebastes]

The only winger we have that’s a worse finisher than Rashford on the account of career stats is Saka. The other three has better non-penalty goals vs npxG ratio.

22 y/o Martinelli equals or betters experienced England star Rashford in pretty much every meaningful attacking stat and is a head above defensively. He’s also got better top speed and faster acceleration for counterattacks.

Anyone shilling out for a ManU player that’s worse than our own doesn’t deserve this team.

**** me this thread and the majority of the opinions trigger me so much. And from some of the people whose footballing opinion I actually respect. Nah you man are certified wrong here. Open your eyes ffs

 

[UnitedBeard]

@UnitedBeard these man are watching 22/23 Rashford compilations.

@drippin is one of them.

 

[Rex Stone]

People who think they know better than Arteta and Edu are baffling to me.

They’re the BEST at what they do. Rashford will explode here.

 

[Badger_Revenge]

The fact that Rashford doesn't really defend is the thing that convinces me Arteta can't be after him. Then again, I would have said that about Havertz as well, who was also substantially worse in all attacking metrics as well.

 

[Rex Stone]

Didn't realize Sesko is this hard working. Get both Sesko and Doue in.

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Rashford is clearing 13km a game

 

[drippin]

Rashford is clearing 13km a game

Sure.. in 2019 he covered 10 km per 90. Now that he has turned into a jogger, it must be much more.

 

[drippin]

People who think they know better than Arteta and Edu are baffling to me.

They’re the BEST at what they do. Rashford will explode here.

That's why they won't buy Rashford.

And yeah his body would explode at Arsenal.

 

[Rex Stone]

Sure.. in 2019 he covered 10 km per 90. Now that he has turned into a jogger, it must be much more.

Four years ago with stats from a Mourinho team.

Scraping the barrel here mate.

 

[Rex Stone]

That's why they won't buy Rashford.

If/when they do I’ll be here for you mate.

Disrespecting the best DoF in the game as it is already.

 

[Paperino]

Four years ago with stats from a Mourinho team.

Scraping the barrel here mate.

You mean a team that counter-attacked a lot?

 

[drippin]

Four years ago with stats from a Mourinho team.

Scraping the barrel here mate.

Show me proof then. I showed you what I could find.

 

[Rex Stone]

Show me proof then. I showed you what I could find.

Google is a thing mate.

 

[drippin]

Anyway, naturally such a list for U21 players means that the players are likely the most hard working talents with the best stamina.

Makes no sense to compare to someone like Rashford whose body has already matured.

 

[dave_rwr]

Four years ago with stats from a Mourinho team.

Scraping the barrel here mate.

Data from this year would suggest he's run even less. Scraping the barrel, indeed.

Man Utd: What is the state of Marcus Rashford & Erik ten Hag's relationship?

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[drippin]

Data from this year would suggest he's run even less. Scraping the barrel, indeed.

Man Utd: What is the state of Marcus Rashford & Erik ten Hag's relationship?

BBC Sport's Simon Stone looks at the relationship between Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag and forward Marcus Rashford after his latest internal sanction.

www.bbc.com

Ooh look @Rex Stone in the mud!

Imagine running less than a couple U21 talents.

 

[Rex Stone]

Data from this year would suggest he's run even less. Scraping the barrel, indeed.

Man Utd: What is the state of Marcus Rashford & Erik ten Hag's relationship?

BBC Sport's Simon Stone looks at the relationship between Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag and forward Marcus Rashford after his latest internal sanction.

www.bbc.com

Bad manager just needs a proper fire lit under him.