Marcus Rashford MBE

[drippin]

Bad manager just needs a proper fire lit under him.

How did it get to this? The goal posts totally disappeared!

Rashford is clearing 13km a game

 

[Rex Stone]

Ooh look @Rex Stone in the mud!

Sorry you feel this way mate but I don’t care about petty points scoring.

I want what’s best for this football club and I know Marcus is the one, as do Edu and Arteta.

 

[lomekian]

Why is it desperate if I show how your "He's better in the air than any of our attackers bar Havertz." is very misleading.

He is barely better in the air than Jesus despite his height. They have both played striker and winger during that time period, but I think Rashford more as a winger. As a winger you're not against tall CB's, so he should be even better in that sense. But it's only 4% better aerial wins with less contested.

"has never played in a team expected to dictate games"

I can't understand how you think Rashford would fit at all, because he hasn't played for a team that dictates games much either. He has never been good at breaking busses, which would be a much bigger requirement than Rashford's counter-attacking abilities. That's why Pepe failed.

Arsenal needs counter-attacking speed mostly for those big away games, which are not that big part of the season. Someone like Doue seems fast enough, but also much more capable to break busses.

If Doue costs 35 million pounds plus let's say 25 million add-ons, plus like 80k per week, it's going to be much cheaper than Rashford costing 80-100 million without much add-ons, plus like 330k per week wages.

Rashford's wages would be 86 million pounds for 5 years, so overall cost would be like 166-186 million for a very risky buy who doesn't even fit Arteta's requirements well. Doue's wages would be 21 million plus 60 million fee, so 81 million pounds.

That's 85-105 million difference, and Doue has a lot of add-ons so doesn't make as big hit to the FFP limits. You can keep Trossard and Jesus, sell Nelson, and go for a proper fitting top winger next summer with that 85-105 million. That's also about the fee for Guimaraes, which is way more important than risking Rashford and helping United. And being stuck with him.

"He's better in the air than any of our attackers bar Havertz." is not misleading if it is true. I never said he was great at it - our other forward players are poor in the air. Yes I know he's not much better than Jesus, but he is better.

When I said "has never played in a team expected to dictate games" - I was referring to Gordon. He's only ever played in scrappy blood and thunder teams - we simply have no idea how he will cope with the step up.

I know Rashford isn't a deep block guy, but we desperately need someone who can offer genuine threat on the counter...having a weapon (whoever it is) who can get at the opposition before they get set would be a huge asset, not to mention vs City, Liverpool and in ECL ties.

I wasn't talking about him in comparison to Doue. Again, totally different players, and for all Doue's promise he isn't coming here to be a first of the taxi rank guy if he does. He's still very inexperienced and plays in a way that probably won't be instantly compatible with what we do.

You are writing to me like I'm saying 'YES we have to get Rashford', when the strongest I've said is 'I think Rashford is more gettable and makes more sense than Gordon or Grealish". I've already said I think Williams is probably a better fit, and that's before we look further afield. Obviously the ideals are players like Mbappe, Krava, Musiala because they are brilliant and multifunctional, but we need to stick with the art of the possible

 

[GoonerJeeves]

I'd be really surprised if this comes to fruition.

 

[Rex Stone]

"He's better in the air than any of our attackers bar Havertz." is not misleading if it is true. I never said he was great at it - our other forward players are poor in the air. Yes I know he's not much better than Jesus, but he is better.

When I said "has never played in a team expected to dictate games" - I was referring to Gordon. He's only ever played in scrappy blood and thunder teams - we simply have no idea how he will cope with the step up.

I know Rashford isn't a deep block guy, but we desperately need someone who can offer genuine threat on the counter...having a weapon (whoever it is) who can get at the opposition before they get set would be a huge asset, not to mention vs City, Liverpool and in ECL ties.

I wasn't talking about him in comparison to Doue. Again, totally different players, and for all Doue's promise he isn't coming here to be a first of the taxi rank guy if he does. He's still very inexperienced and plays in a way that probably won't be instantly compatible with what we do.

You are writing to me like I'm saying 'YES we have to get Rashford', when the strongest I've said is 'I think Rashford is more gettable and makes more sense than Gordon or Grealish". I've already said I think Williams is probably a better fit, and that's before we look further afield. Obviously the ideals are players like Mbappe, Krava, Musiala because they are brilliant and multifunctional, but we need to stick with the art of the possible

Guy’s got tunnel vision and not looking at facts. We all just want what’s best for this club.

 

[lomekian]

The only winger we have that’s a worse finisher than Rashford on the account of career stats is Saka. The other three has better non-penalty goals vs npxG ratio.

22 y/o Martinelli equals or betters experienced England star Rashford in pretty much every meaningful attacking stat and is a head above defensively. He’s also got better top speed and faster acceleration for counterattacks.

Anyone shilling out for a ManU player that’s worse than our own doesn’t deserve this team.

**** me this thread and the majority of the opinions trigger me so much. And from some of the people whose footballing opinion I actually respect. Nah you man are certified wrong here. Open your eyes ffs

Better acceleration but not better top speed. I agree that Martinelli is where we should be investing our energy. It was interesting to see him effective on the right vs Everton - would be very useful if that is an option at times.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

@UnitedBeard these man are watching 22/23 Rashford compilations.

Come on, you could do with giving us more insight than this

 

[Rex Stone]

@UnitedBeard these man are watching 22/23 Rashford compilations.

Everyone here we see someone who’s been a strong Rashford fan over the last few years.

Now he’s suddenly linked with a move away however… must have them worried!

 

[Blankety Blank]

Better acceleration but not better top speed. I agree that Martinelli is where we should be investing our energy. It was interesting to see him effective on the right vs Everton - would be very useful if that is an option at times.

I rate Nelli, not at his best last season suffered a quite a bit with injuries but I expect him to kick on again.
As you say he did quite well on the right v Everton. i defo think we need another wide option but sometimes the grass isn't always greener.

It has to be the right player.

 

[Blankety Blank]

Other threads now being overtaken by Rashy talk

 

[Arsenal1508]

No thanks...I'm happy with Martinelli.

 

[El Realista]

No thanks...I'm happy with Martinelli.

You mean Trossard because he lost his place against him at the end of the season.

 

[Haphazard]

People who think they know better than Arteta and Edu are baffling to me.

They’re the BEST at what they do. Rashford will explode here.

 

[Sebastes]

Someone’s on the wind up

 

[Dokaka]

The only winger we have that’s a worse finisher than Rashford on the account of career stats is Saka. The other three has better non-penalty goals vs npxG ratio.

22 y/o Martinelli equals or betters experienced England star Rashford in pretty much every meaningful attacking stat and is a head above defensively. He’s also got better top speed and faster acceleration for counterattacks.

Anyone shilling out for a ManU player that’s worse than our own doesn’t deserve this team.

**** me this thread and the majority of the opinions trigger me so much. And from some of the people whose footballing opinion I actually respect. Nah you man are certified wrong here. Open your eyes ffs

 

[Macho]

If we could pay Havertz 300k plus for whatever the f*ck it is he does, surely we can make Rashford happen.

VAMOS

 

[jones]

People who think they know better than Arteta and Edu are baffling to me.

They’re the BEST at what they do. Rashford will explode here.

I went along for a sec but you're wrong for this. Bro went "We the BEST" ffs

 

[drippin]

Sorry you feel this way mate but I don’t care about petty points scoring.

I want what’s best for this football club and I know Marcus is the one, as do Edu and Arteta.

No, you just spread lies to hype up Rashford. Hard to score points with lies mate.

 

[drippin]

"He's better in the air than any of our attackers bar Havertz." is not misleading if it is true. I never said he was great at it - our other forward players are poor in the air. Yes I know he's not much better than Jesus, but he is better.

Correct wording would have been "he is a bit better in the air". That's what I corrected, and I would assume a good poster like you would just agree.

I have done nothing desperate. It's much more desperate to try to hype up Rashford with his aerial prowess, when he is quite bad at it for his size.

When I said "has never played in a team expected to dictate games" - I was referring to Gordon. He's only ever played in scrappy blood and thunder teams - we simply have no idea how he will cope with the step up.

And I was referring to Rashford how United hasn't dictated games either, or has been able to break busses. United has been a counter-attacking team for a long time, being unable to dominate even easier opposition properly.

I know Rashford isn't a deep block guy, but we desperately need someone who can offer genuine threat on the counter...having a weapon (whoever it is) who can get at the opposition before they get set would be a huge asset, not to mention vs City, Liverpool and in ECL ties.

Yes, but not so desperately as to buy very expensive Rashford this window. Rashford would have been an okay option before his extension, as then he would have been much cheaper.

I wasn't talking about him in comparison to Doue. Again, totally different players, and for all Doue's promise he isn't coming here to be a first of the taxi rank guy if he does. He's still very inexperienced and plays in a way that probably won't be instantly compatible with what we do.

I was talking about in comparison to Doue, how he fits better and is so much cheaper overall that you can get Guimaraes fee with that difference. A player who is crucial compared to what Rashford would bring to this team.

You are writing to me like I'm saying 'YES we have to get Rashford', when the strongest I've said is 'I think Rashford is more gettable and makes more sense than Gordon or Grealish". I've already said I think Williams is probably a better fit, and that's before we look further afield. Obviously the ideals are players like Mbappe, Krava, Musiala because they are brilliant and multifunctional, but we need to stick with the art of the possible

I am writing to you to dispute how you suggested that Rashford is somehow a better fit than Gordon or Grealish. My point is that none of them are a good fit for their price, and I don't want them.

Williams yes, he is a good fit, but his wages are already astronomical for his age. Can't see it happening if he demands 250-300k pounds per week. 200k-220k yes, but that would mean he doesn't get a raise. Doue is much more likely for me with his current wages, and he is a similar talent.

I just see it better to get a cheaper winger like Doue, upgrade the whole squad where needed, and go big for a fast top winger next year when there can be much better options available. Then you can let go of Jesus and Trossard if required. Rashford would block any moves for a top winger, and he is not that.

He is good, but he is not top top complete fast tricky winger. But his overall cost is as if he is.

 

[drippin]

Better acceleration but not better top speed. I agree that Martinelli is where we should be investing our energy. It was interesting to see him effective on the right vs Everton - would be very useful if that is an option at times.

Care to show your proof for it? This has already been discussed here, and Martinelli is currently faster by looking at the stats.

Marcus Rashford MBE

Rashford had amazing pace. Last 12-18 months he has lost a yard of pace. It’s clear as day and something so many united fans already mentioned United fans thought Ander Herrera was the best midfielder in the PL. I wouldn’t worry too much about their assessment.

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