Martin Ødegaard: El Capitanø

[GoonerJay24]

@GDeep™ and @Mrs Bergkamp 's husband...

...all the best teams do indeed have two.

I mean that team had like 4 or 5 tbh

They were something else damn

 

[Peterq]

He was on painkillers after that tackle. Problem is we let go Viera and Merino is injured for weeks.

 

[Heavy Duty Rom]

He managed to perfectly control the ball that was passed behind him and got the advantage just with his first touch to even get in a position where he could be dangerous and obviously, the pass wasn't great after that.

So that's the worst he's done today? Do I upload a 10 hour video of Özil ****ting himself in half of the games of most seasons he played in? What are you trying to say here? The guy is our single source of creativity, was probably the best creative player in the world last season and we still need to promote tweets from a subhuman? F Vieira superior? Amazing stuff on this forum, think it's time for me to take a break from this.

I don't think its mad to suggest he messes up in these situations too often for a player with his ability. He can be pretty horrible on counter attacks where he gets the ball high up the pitch.

 

[Tourbillion]

Poor game today, he couldn't deal with the congested area and what the hell was that first touch?

Honestly the fact that this guy is our creative lynchpin is quite depressing to me and it's not so much a slight on Ødegaard as it is an indictment of the quality of creative players today.

 

[Maybe]

Guardiola understands the game better: Kovacic, Bernardo, Grealish, KDB, and Foden, it's so obvious they never play 1 technical guy and hope for the best, something that we do all the time. You put Ødegaard in their system and his game would improve by 20%, or you could look at Foden in his England shirt and see how bad he plays when he doesn't have similar players next to him.

I don't fully understand what Arteta is trying to do, why we went for Calafiori, and is Merino going to help with our lack of technical quality, I just feel sick of people having a go at Ode while he is the key player that holds this team together. With Sterling we might have a bit more on the technical side but who knows in what shape he is.

My idea was always that Rice would sit in front of our defense and we would get a baller next to Ode, with one of them dropping a bit deeper to help in the buildup. Guess Arteta doesn't see it that way

 

[RunTheTrap]

He managed to perfectly control the ball that was passed behind him and got the advantage just with his first touch to even get in a position where he could be dangerous and obviously, the pass wasn't great after that.

So that's the worst he's done today? Do I upload a 10 hour video of Özil ****ting himself in half of the games of most seasons he played in? What are you trying to say here? The guy is our single source of creativity, was probably the best creative player in the world last season and we still need to promote tweets from a subhuman? F Vieira superior? Amazing stuff on this forum, think it's time for me to take a break from this.

I've come back to this because I didn't have the vocabulary to articulate what I wanted to say at the time. I trust Ødegaard to score 15 goals a season before he assisted 10. Ødegaard has never been an elite chance creator like Özil or Cesc. That's not his game. He's more like Foden or Bernando Silva than a KdB. Fans see a small technical midfielder and assume he's creative, but he lacks that ability to cut teams apart with one through ball or lofted pass. I'm sure the stats will tell a different story but to my eyes, I don't see an elite killer. We need someone besides him to kill teams with one pass. Vieira was supposed to be that guy, but he is not a PL-level midfielder.

 

[Maybe]

I've come back to this because I didn't have the vocabulary to articulate what I wanted to say at the time. I trust Ødegaard to score 15 goals a season before he assisted 10. Ødegaard has never been an elite chance creator like Özil or Cesc. That's not his game. He's more like Foden or Bernando Silva than a KdB. Fans see a small technical midfielder and assume he's creative, but he lacks that ability to cut teams apart with one through ball or lofted pass. I'm sure the stats will tell a different story but to my eyes, I don't see an elite killer. We need someone besides him to kill teams with one pass. Vieira was supposed to be that guy, but he is not a PL-level midfielder.

Yeah that's fair, and the solution for that should be adding more players like him rather than finding a new Özil or a killer. Özil did have a better final ball and his first touch was always exceptional, but he did come with a different set of problems. Ødegaard is way better in tight spaces, gets more involved, and does more without the ball.

I think City is doing this well, they will break teams with a number of technical players. They are still fine without KDB because Kovacic, Foden, and Bernardo are too much for most teams while at the same time, none of them is a killer ( I would even say Ode is more creative than them).

 

[Heavy Duty Rom]

Yeah that's fair, and the solution for that should be adding more players like him rather than finding a new Özil or a killer. Özil did have a better final ball and his first touch was always exceptional, but he did come with a different set of problems. Ødegaard is way better in tight spaces, gets more involved, and does more without the ball.

I think City is doing this well, they will break teams with a number of technical players. They are still fine without KDB because Kovacic, Foden, and Bernardo are too much for most teams while at the same time, none of them is a killer ( I would even say Ode is more creative than them).

Spot on. Did you watch City today in and around the box? They flooded it, quick one touch passing.

Said it before, but if we don’t play with natural full backs, why can’t we have two attacking CMs?

 

[BigPoppaPump]

Guardiola understands the game better: Kovacic, Bernardo, Grealish, KDB, and Foden, it's so obvious they never play 1 technical guy and hope for the best, something that we do all the time. You put Ødegaard in their system and his game would improve by 20%, or you could look at Foden in his England shirt and see how bad he plays when he doesn't have similar players next to him.

I don't fully understand what Arteta is trying to do, why we went for Calafiori, and is Merino going to help with our lack of technical quality, I just feel sick of people having a go at Ode while he is the key player that holds this team together. With Sterling we might have a bit more on the technical side but who knows in what shape he is.

My idea was always that Rice would sit in front of our defense and we would get a baller next to Ode, with one of them dropping a bit deeper to help in the buildup. Guess Arteta doesn't see it that way

Arteta is just obsessed with being defensive, every transfer window we buy CBs and keepers, he buys midfielders to be defensive too. I don't think we've eveb bought a striker the entire time he's been here even the guys he plays at 9 are known for tracking back.

It's good as it leads us to being the most solid team defensively but what happens is we start relying on set pieces since we don't have creativity in the team. If Ødegaard or Saka don't get things going someone like Trossard might do it but there isn't enough players in the team that can do something with the ball at their feet.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Arteta is just obsessed with being defensive, every transfer window we buy CBs and keepers, he buys midfielders to be defensive too. I don't think we've eveb bought a striker the entire time he's been here even the guys he plays at 9 are known for tracking back.

It's good as it leads us to being the most solid team defensively but what happens is we start relying on set pieces since we don't have creativity in the team. If Ødegaard or Saka don't get things going someone like Trossard might do it but there isn't enough players in the team that can do something with the ball at their feet.

Arteta believe these 4 guys upfront will do the job because his midfielder will win duels and dominate the ball but we need another midfielder who just have more vision we only got Ødegaard and he really not started season well

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

I really don't know how he mess that simple pass to Calafiori when we were down to 10 men he did great work with first touch and dribbling the Brighton midfielder but mess up the simple things.

Yesterday specially after Minteh taken out Ødegaard his performance wasn't good hopefully he pick lt up soon guy is important with what we do

 

[Oxeki]

Guardiola understands the game better: Kovacic, Bernardo, Grealish, KDB, and Foden, it's so obvious they never play 1 technical guy and hope for the best, something that we do all the time. You put Ødegaard in their system and his game would improve by 20%, or you could look at Foden in his England shirt and see how bad he plays when he doesn't have similar players next to him.

I don't fully understand what Arteta is trying to do, why we went for Calafiori, and is Merino going to help with our lack of technical quality, I just feel sick of people having a go at Ode while he is the key player that holds this team together. With Sterling we might have a bit more on the technical side but who knows in what shape he is.

My idea was always that Rice would sit in front of our defense and we would get a baller next to Ode, with one of them dropping a bit deeper to help in the buildup. Guess Arteta doesn't see it that way

Because Arteta wanted physicality over technical ability in the midfield.

He's banking on Ødegaard being able to carry the creative burden alone.
It's why he never was enamoured with Vieira.

 

[Rasmi]

Because Arteta wanted physicality over technical ability in the midfield.

He's banking on Ødegaard being able to carry the creative burden alone.
It's why he never was enamoured with Vieira.

Exactly. I feel for Ødegaard because he is being compared to someone like KDB who has creative technicians all over the place. With Ødegaard he is the lone technician and it’s much easier for opponents to focus on him

This is why I never been Arteta in and never be until he changes. He doesn’t respect the technical aspect of the game and think he can overcome it with physicality and tactics. And you can in some games. Over a season it won’t be enough

 

[jaystewart]

Patiently waiting for the 22/23 Ødegaard to come back

 

[Gooner Zig]

By his standards he had an absolute stinker. How he didn't get the ball to Calafiori who would have been clear through on goal is beyond me. To be fair, he got a pretty hefty kick from a Brighton player which may have impacted him but regardless disappointing performance from MØ8

 

[SA Gunner]

We should recall Fabio Vieira people, I think we will need him.

 

[A_G]

We should recall Fabio Vieira people, I think we will need him.

Can’t do it outside the transfer window

 

[blaze_of_glory]

Patiently waiting for the 22/23 Ødegaard to come back

He was great last season though.

 

[Buhry]

Patiently waiting for the 22/23 Ødegaard to come back

Hope he can find his shooting boots from that season. But I think his overall game 2nd half of last season was superior to 22/23:
Yesterday he was crap though ngl

 

[Big Poppa]

We should recall Fabio Vieira people, I think we will need him.

I personally don’t understand why we’re so reluctant to expose Nwaneri.