Mattéo Guendouzi: Loaned Ouzi

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by HBL, Sep 15, 2019.

  1. Tosker

    Tosker Does Not Hate Foreigners

    a lot will depend on whether he wanted to leave, I suspect - if being transfer listed came as a shock then he might make a real effort to buckle down and redeem himself - a couple of run outs with the U23s might be a good idea

    not sure I have a lot of hope though
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  2. GunnerShy

    GunnerShy Well-Known Member

    What's his management doing about this? He should be working double time.to.get Guendouzi out the club. He's got no future here and he should be starting at a club to build on all those arsenal starts he knicked.
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  3. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Camavinga is 17 and playing for the senior team. Levels to this.
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  4. razörist

    razörist Soft With The Ladies, Hard With The Mes

    Jep that’s the highest level, there are like 5 players like that in the world. Ours are below but pretty damn good!
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  5. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Good to see him back to first team training it'll be unfair to keep out much longer. Doesn't mean he is staying tho if we received good bid we'll sell
  6. Taylor Gang Gunners

    Taylor Gang Gunners Shame is a dish best served cold Trusted

    Keep. Him. At. All. Costs.
  7. Taneruit

    Taneruit Well-Known Member

    Even if that cost would be Arteta?

    I mean its great if he buckles down now and it is what I’m hoping for, but if theres another bust-up I don’t know how long the manager-player relationship can last here.
  8. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado Trusted

    Defo needs to keep the attitude, dont be taming him! It added to his game on the pitch.

    Hope he wins the Gold medal next summer & really ratchets it up. Like Kurt Angle or Henry Cejudo.
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  9. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    .can't attack. Can't defend. No positioning. No game intelligence. Heavy first touch. Too slow to pick a pass. Too slow tracking back. what he knows is sneaky tricks to buy fouls, decent passing range and bit of direct play in final third. Has one assist to auba and zero goals to show for being indulged in the midfield for two seasons in the PL.
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  10. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    Think this just qualifies as basic trashing of a player, tbh. He has great abilities and talent and no one player is going to have perfect attributes for everything. There are good examples of him attacking and defending if you push yourself to recollect. He didn’t just get that call up into the France squad for nothing. He just has some apparent attitude issues that may self-correct or not over time, and that probably is the impediment to him being coached to simplifying his game with positioning and tactical discipline.
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  11. Taylor Gang Gunners

    Taylor Gang Gunners Shame is a dish best served cold Trusted

    No chance Guendouzi stays over Mikel. But I take your point. I love Guen. If he humbled himself and absorbs what Uncle Mikel has to offer he can become a top class midfielder.

    Did you catch him for France U21?

    Highlights don’t quite do him justice but he ran the show. Arteta said every player has a clean slate, let’s home we can move on from that little rift.
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  12. Taneruit

    Taneruit Well-Known Member

    I don't doubt his talents, but I can't say the last half of the season enarmored me with him. Especially considering he squashed more than one chance. But yeah, I can see him becoming a very good player, even though he needs to work on some basics, especially positioning.

    Anyway, his first challenge will be purely accepting limited playtime with Ceballos having put himself clearly in front of Guen. Even more so if the reminder of the transfer window goes well and we get our targets.

    If he can do that without complaint he certainly gets some of my respect back.
  13. MutableEarth

    MutableEarth Bloody awesome NSFW avatars Trusted

    I don't mind if he keeps the attitude as long as he learns to release the ball quicker and hold position when he's supposed to!
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  14. GunnerShy

    GunnerShy Well-Known Member

    Spot on. Flatters to deceive. Waves his hands around, yells and looks busy chasing shadows.

    He's a poor man's MK2 Flamini
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  15. Let's play Aubamawang

    Let's play Aubamawang Well-Known Member

    The biggest problem with Guendouzi on the pitch is his tactical discipline. We won't be able to maintain our defensive shape if he's wandering off. Sure that can be coached, but if the player doesn't want to learn because he thinks he's already made it, then you're in trouble. Personally, I would have sold him for the £60m figure floating around last summer.
  16. EmeryCouldnt

    EmeryCouldnt Well-Known Member

    Honestly, Mikel would have a whole lot to offer this kid if he listened.
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  17. balthazar

    balthazar Well-Known Member

    but no one offered 60 million sterling.
  18. EmeryCouldnt

    EmeryCouldnt Well-Known Member

    Of course selling Guendouzi for 60 million is worth it. Even if he fulfills his perceived potential, he likely wont be worth 60 million. He certainly isnt filling a 60 million void in our team. Offers for guendouzi are probably closer to 12 million.
  19. Let's play Aubamawang

    Let's play Aubamawang Well-Known Member

    Last year there were rumours linking him to PSG for around that amount. Whether it was true or not, I can't say. But given his age and confidence on the ball, it wouldn't surprise me if PSG did offer around that figure and we turned it down for whatever reason.
  20. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    PSG wouldnt touch emery or his proteges with a 100ft pole.
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