Mesut Özil (Out)

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Ewarwoowar, May 26, 2017.

  1. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Tbh, because you're from Mexico, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt with this 'Londoner' rubbish, because I think a lot has been lost in translation. I don't think you realise how offensive you're being
     
  2. yorch44

    yorch44 Well-Known Member

    Hmmm... my dictionary says: a native or inhabitant of London... so I use it. I don’t know if calling someone from London “Londoner” it’s an insult...
     
  3. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I'm talking about you accusing 'Londoners' for forcing Özil out of the club, like we're a pack of hooligans. It's one of the stupidest things I've ever read on here tbh. And I personally find it the way you're using the term offensive. You mean 'Arsenal fans'. Not 'Londoners'. Arsenal fans in the stadium is probably 30% 'Londoners' ffs.

    @Godwin1 explained to you how you're not making sense, but you went off and posted more stuff that made no sense.
     
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  4. yorch44

    yorch44 Well-Known Member

    Ok not only London people... English in general who supports Arsenal. Because you know, the media and the AFTV and people close to the team is the one with more weight.
    Actually people outside England, we have close to none pressure in players or the team... maybe in social media but I don’t think players read my messages on FB or IG.

    But I watched a lot of transmissions even from SkySports blaming Mesut or saying if he was in the game implying he disappeared like “always”.

    Then tons of people in England started to throw a lot of BS about him. And if you don’t accept that it’s not my fault but it’s true. He is one of the more hated and polarized players I have seen... he did not deserved it so early.
     
  5. yorch44

    yorch44 Well-Known Member

    And not disrespectful at all... it’s only I don’t agree the way Özil was treated in England. And I don’t agree that vision you have of smart players. You are so focused in physical and strong players that you are losing quality players. Football isn’t about running or clashing. That’s why I think your NT sometimes struggles to make it... you need more technical players. I am sure you could have a lot if you weren’t only looking for the muscle.
     
  6. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Well ok, we're getting somewhere now. I have no idea why you focused on Londoners specifically, but I now know what you mean. No offense.

    So you basically think the English are seeing a problem with Özil that those outside of England are not seeing. Well this is obviously not true either. You don't have to think too much to realise why that isn't true.

    It wasn't always bad for Özil either. It went that way with his performances.

    Özil has had unfair treatment by the media like a lot of Arsenal players have over the years, but they're not the ones who pick the team.
     
  7. yorch44

    yorch44 Well-Known Member

    English media is so dumb sometimes... but they have a lot of weight and pressure and you want it or not... they make an impact in people’s mind. If you are hearing Henry or whatever commentator you want ... constantly saying that Özil is not putting enough effort because of his face or because he is not yelling to players... it’s unfair because I watching him tons of times getting frustrated, so he clearly cared the team and results. But He is not that Messi kind of player... He gives you chances of goal but If Giroud could not run and make a goal... well he will look bad.

    Now I think we both agree that Özil could play minutes to contribute the tram and fight for his place, but if he is not allowed to that... well I would do the same, get tired and start to don’t giving a **** ... because whatever you do, the manager is not counting on you for any reason he wants
     
  8. Flying Okapis

    Flying Okapis Well-Known Member

    Just going to touch on AFTV; do not use this as your base for opinion on Arsenal fans, yeah they go to the games, yes they are mostly from London and around the area but they are an extreme, the majority of the ones who get camera time are the ones who spew the most abuse as that is what AFTV and the mob on there want.

    Troopz, DT etc have made what looks like a career change just from being on there, they will continue to spew abuse just for views.

    Their most viewed 'interviews' are from when we lose, a lot of the views could be from rival fans as I dont know any local Arsenal fans who care for it. The one time they got a chance to hold a serious discussion was when Gary Neville granted them access for an interview and AFTV truly showed how pathetic and unprofessional they really are.

    The English media in general sucks and are not really much different from AFTV really, the headlines are what they are to attract attention and sell papers/clicks etc.

    Özil is a high profile player, each media outlet will have their own agenda as he already has the following to attract attention.
     
  9. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    His house is up for sale. I think it went down in value while he was there. Absolute scenes if Emery snaps it up.
     
  10. Pepes blue pill

    Pepes blue pill Well-Known Member

    some people are easily offended :lol::lol:
     
  11. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Easy to say when you're Scottish, eh?
     
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  12. Pepes blue pill

    Pepes blue pill Well-Known Member

    :lol::lol: I never knew, my whole life has been a lie, better go get myself some bagpipes
     
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  13. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant

    Emery couldn't afford it
     
  14. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    £8-10m? Emery could easily afford that. 30-40k pm mortgage, although he could give a lot more. I'd be gutted if I had to move out of there tbh, although his recent experiences could probably make leaving his home a bit easier.
     
  15. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Why did I think you were scottish? o_O Must be your punting style :p
     
  16. mavelous

    mavelous Tinfoil hat aficionado Trusted

    I wish nothing but the best for you ))
     
  17. yorch44

    yorch44 Well-Known Member

    Thank you ... I wish you the same... have a nice and happy day
     
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  18. mavelous

    mavelous Tinfoil hat aficionado Trusted

    Sometimes it lasts in love
    But sometimes it hurts instead

    You know how the time flies
    Only yesterday it was the time of our lives
     
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  19. krackpot

    krackpot Well-Known Member

    I use this thread to find the Özil haters.
     
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  20. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    No way should we be giving Özil away for free. Sad state of affairs.
     
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