Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.


Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Here you go:

    “The awkward situation between Arsenal and Mesut Özil came back into the spotlight last week when the German playmaker was left out of their squad for the Europa League group stages.

    Following Mikel Arteta’s appointment as head coach, Özil started all 10 of the club’s Premier League games before football was suspended in March because of the COVID-19 outbreak. But from the restart in July until the end of the 2019-20 campaign, the 31-year-old did not play a single minute of competitive football and this season he has not featured in a match-day squad.

    In an interview with The Athletic in August, Özil suggested that his decision to reject a 12.5 per cent pay cut during the shutdown might have been a factor contributing towards the lack of game time he has been afforded, although Arteta has always insisted team selection is based purely on merit.

    With Özil seemingly surplus to requirements despite being the team’s highest-earning player, Arsenal have been keen to move him on. But the 2014 World Cup winner has repeatedly stated that he is available for action and will be staying until the end of his contract in June 2021.

    Another element that may have influenced Arsenal’s desire to shift Özil in the summer transfer window is a loyalty bonus amounting to around £8 million that was paid to him at the end of September.

    This stems from an arrangement negotiated with the former Real Madrid attacker when he ended speculation about his future by signing a new three-and-a-half-year deal in January 2018. At that point, Arsenal would likely have wanted Özil to stay until at least the end of his agreement and such a mechanism — which many players benefit from — would have rewarded his service.

    The reality has worked out very differently and at great expense to Arsenal, although they are saving significant sums of money in appearance-related bonuses while Özil is not involved.

    Many eyes will now focus on whether Özil will feature in Arteta’s Premier League squad, with lists scheduled to be announced on October 20 after the closure of the domestic transfer window.”
  2. Paddy from Sweden

    Paddy from Sweden Active Member

    @Macho posted the Ornstein article earlier.
  3. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    This problem of terrible judgement pervades AM though. There's actually posters on here who kept saying Nacho was useless. And even more incredible, after 20 years of continuous top 4 on a budget, people saying any manager could do better than this with Arsenal! If it wasn't so crazy, it would be laughable.
  4. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    He just mentioned today along with the bonus stuff. He said “heaps” :lol:. Jist of it is they save significant sums if he doesn’t play
  5. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    Yeah but that's not what celestis said and what I asked.

    "Well at least we know the club saves a heap of money in bonuses according to Ornstein anyways."

    That 8 million loyalty bonus is already gone, so what are we saving for not playing him?
  6. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Özil‘s behavior towards Arsenal has always been first and foremost about money. He and his agents etc. are acting with the single purpose of maximizing his earnings. Think he has zero loyalty to the club and its fans. What is going on now is solely about the loyalty bonus on his part. If he plays or not is totally besides the point for him.

    I think the club should play hardball and make his professional life as miserable as possible. If possible I wouldn’t register him for any competitions and have him do cardio drills day in and day out. In between he can help with the training of the youth teams. Whatever is allowed within the bounds of his contract and English employment law I’d have the club do it. Would set a good example. Guy has been cuddled way too long by the club.
  7. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    That would be my dream job, regular cardio drills, coaching football to youngsters and getting £350K a month. :lol:
  8. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Not to mention someone cooking your meals and free creatine and supplements:lol:
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  9. James Bond

    James Bond Moderation Consultant

    He mentions it within the article at the end, but doesn’t give a figure...

    Thankfully the club is doing what they can to limit the money paid out to this retiree. He downed his tools on the club the second the ink dried. 2nd highest paid player in the entire league and he put his feet up on the club when we actually needed him most to step up and help stop the club’s slide down the table each year yet there are people that actually support him for it, but they also still claim to be Arsenal fans too. Wild.
  10. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    @Rex Banter
  11. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    What does Rex have to do with this:lol:. He’s never carried on like a pork chop about Ivan
  12. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Appearance bonuses apparently. Read the article and see what you think.
  13. Paddy from Sweden

    Paddy from Sweden Active Member

    You wanted to know the quote and what Ornstein said and it's in the article. He never mentioned any sums.
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  14. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    I think he created a thread a few months ago to try to cast Ivan in a positive light. Although I can't seem to find it.
  15. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Ivan had a good structure set up with Burgess , Sven and Raul. They needed to be managed though.
  16. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    Ah okay, thanks, missed that. Very good if we can save big amounts of money. Özil in the bin for a year, thanks.
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  17. Tosker

    Tosker Does Not Hate Foreigners

    a figure of £100k a game was mentioned yesterday

    It really pisses me off big time that this guy gets all this money, refuses a pay cut in difficult times, and still chases the adulation of people much poorer than him for his 'philanthropy'
    sykesy69, 254Giant, musoke and 3 others like this.
  18. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

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  19. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    Özil could run round the world for charity and donate his life savings to a children's hospital and people would still find some way to make out that he's a lazy, greedy tw@t.
    albakos, kash2 and krackpot like this.
  20. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    Özil could be a lazy, greedy person. But by doing his PR stuff as usual, donating a tiny bit of his earnings out, he could pretend that he is a kind and generous person.

    People will find some way to make out that he is the greatest footballer ever just because he has donated money to the charities.

    This is probably the reason why people ignore his weaknesses on the pitch.
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2020
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