Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.


Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Forgot about Villa, luckily they fell apart as the season got to the end, that was a close one...Always thought we would finish ahead of Everton, I like Roberto Martinez but I couldn't really take a side he manages too seriously.

    Talking just Emirates era here, when top four was our aim...but I was ****ting myself in 05/06 at the thought of finishing behind Sp**s though!
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  2. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    How have we ended up in this clusterfvck?

    Agree the Arsenal board and DFB made massive screw ups here. But Özil must also bear responsibility with some of the choices and decisions he has made to get to this point.

    Hopefully this is something we can all agree in principle, although we could argue into the night apportioning percentages of the blame.

    Personally I believe his martyrdom has been vastly over inflated.
  3. HollandGooner

    HollandGooner Well-Known Member

    Can't wait for El Neny and Willock FFS.
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  4. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    How Özil sees himself...

    How pretty much everyone else in the world sees Özil...

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  5. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Özil with strong message via Instagram basically he don't understand why he been not registered after the loyalty he show in his time here specially after signing new contract
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  6. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    Just seen it :lol:
  7. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

  8. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    I will be so glad when he is gone and we can put this absolute mess this situation is behind us :lol:
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  9. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief

    I find this all a bit weird. Did the club not say "we aren't going to register you to play in PL or EL so suggest you find a move somewhere else"??

    What communication has gone on. Bizarre because the club want to shift him so surely they'd make it clear he won't play
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  10. TinFish

    TinFish Well-Known Member

    You are either a kid or a troll.

    Cesc was comfortably better than Mesut at the Emirates. I'd go on to say he was our best player during the Emirates period so far.

    Go watch some youtube on him to shake up your brain a bit - growing up young Cesc was insane and virtually carried the team until RVP peaked for us.
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  11. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    we did that because we afraid of losing alot of money from China sponsors? Last phrase from mesut could suggest that
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  12. Lady_Gooner

    Lady_Gooner That's Mrs. Ramsey to you buster!

    The last sentence suggests it’s about the China thing despite him playing after that and if it is that’s a joke from the club
  13. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Arsenal are a bum club. What can you say?

    Mod Edit: not what you said after this
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  14. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    It's not the China thing, it's because we are saving around £100,000 a week by not naming him in the squad...think that's just Mes trying to save face a little.

    Özil's China views are a bit murky now, after his views on the Armenia situation.
  15. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Next lessons for players that keep politics out of football. It'll always end badly.
  16. Keplaz

    Keplaz Well-Known Member

    It can't just be the China thing. Arsenal very swiftly distanced themselves from his opinion and he still played.

    I think it played a part but not in isolation. Something else has happened I think. Something which I'm sure will come out later.

    Arsenal still have to pay him so it would make sense to still play him. He can't be earning that much more in bonuses. I also suspect Özil's statement was preprepared after the EFL omission.

    He would have know then that he wouldn't be registered for the PL. I'm sure he also knew he wasn't going to play. Arsenal have messed this up royally but I still believe both parties have played a part here.
  17. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    I doubt that you have to be Einstein to understand that the club doesn't want you here... His team is just targeting a couple of pathetic social media shares and likes from idiots who follow him. If he wanted to play football, he could've gone in the summer, but that's not what he wanted.
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  18. elemoo

    elemoo Well-Known Member

    I mean, tbf before lockdown, he was playing better than anyone we have in midfield now.

    Also, imagine if he was playing well and decided to leave? Fans would be calling him out for not honouring his contract and being a judas/alexis 2.0 etc.... but when we want him to leave, suddenly he shouldn't honour his contract to please us? lol

    Honest question: would any of you leave your job right now for a pay cut, whilst having to move your family to a new city/country (esp during Covid), if you knew you could stay in your fave city, keep your wife and child happy, and get paid so much more even if you don't work (imagine your company tells you if you see out your contract you get £££ bonuses)... and it also means you have 9 months to plan out your next move?!

    Personaly I think Özil is doing what most of us would do in a similar position.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2020
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  19. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    He'll always defend his guy erdogan no matter what and stand with turkey. Özil shouldn't talk politics its dangerous game and that what will happen
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  20. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Contrarian

    Look who's at it again @American_Gooner, I swear he's shameless. This tweet was bait for people to praise his Emirates years :facepalm:

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