Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.


Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Read my post. I'm talking specifically about 100kpw just to be named in the squad. That is extreme even in this climate.


    Take this for example. The closest thing I can find is Alexis getting 75k a week for every start and that's United. Closest thing at Arsenal is Auba getting 50k for every start that we win. I'm finding it very hard to believe that Özil is getting 100k for every match he's named in the squad.
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  2. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

    you expect a lot from people then.

    You want him to stop because you dont agree with his views. What if you agreed with what he said?
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  3. Paddy from Sweden

    Paddy from Sweden Active Member

    Me neither. Loved the guy but now I can't stand him and his social media antics. If he would've been the least bit loyal he should've concentrated on his football career instead of things outside it, apart from family of course. But he lost focus on what it was that made Mesut Özil a career, being damn good at playing football. He should've put all other things aside until he had retired from the game. He could do his charities and stuff behind the scenes and let others take care of it and concentrate on playing football. That would've been to be loyal to Arsenal Football Club. But you steered off the path,Özil. Sad but true.
  4. say yes

    say yes Thread Title Abuser

    We’re not going to know the exact figures without examining Özil’s contract. However, I have little doubt the club will be saving a decent chunk of his salary by not selecting him. That is likely a factor in the decision to cut him.
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  5. Penn_

    Penn_ Established Member

    Yeah Özil should just focus on his Arsenal career. What kind of arrogant scumbag would try to make the world a better place by speaking up on issues bigger than any club.
  6. SomGooner

    SomGooner Prolific Liker

    The muppets who own the club have turned Özil into the Kaepernick of football.

    And oh yeah F*CK CHINA.
  7. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

  8. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    awww that much effort.... lol loser
  9. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Thanks for posting! One of my absolute favorite comedy movies. So many over the top characters. Best was Les Grossman. Wonder if that is Tom Cruise’s actual character? Think we often mistake public for personal character.
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  10. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Depends on how much but providing he's not a starter, which I don't think he would be, then how much are we really saving here?

    Does that offset the potential points cost of bringing on Willock & co. I dunno but looking at those example contracts there don't seem to be extravagant bonus payments for just being named on the bench.
  11. Paddy from Sweden

    Paddy from Sweden Active Member

    The club is Özil's employer and as an employee you do as your employer says and what is expected of you. Otherwise you get fired. Özil hasn't done what is expected of him while still getting payed big. So coming out saying he's been loyal is quite laughable.
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  12. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    "bad influence in the dressing room" they said
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  13. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    He's training and has made himself available for selection. You're the same guy who said he should focus on football right?
  14. gunner4lyfe

    gunner4lyfe Well-Known Member

    Very well timed. His PR team is on point. I dont buy that the club just suddenly wanted him out the team after Arteta was playing him. He did something to trigger that. Also he had the whole summer to leave so i dont know why the fvck he's acting all surprised that he's left out when the club wanted him out all summer. We move forward. Lets not let this distraction continue for the whole season.
  15. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Contrarian

    Paulista :lol: can that guy even read?
  16. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Think criticizing China for human rights abuses and cozying up to Erdogan at the same time doesn’t really jive well. It has to be either or as far as I see it.
  17. Paddy from Sweden

    Paddy from Sweden Active Member

    But he has already messed that up. He should've focused. He didn't and here we are.
  18. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

  19. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Established Member

    I mean you could go down the 'Özil PR route' and just assume he's been a bad professional and fallen foul of a tougher regime, and this is him protecting his public image.

    Or maybe the club we support might actually be capable of d*ckheadedness, just a possibility. I mean i'm sure there are nice individuals there, but this is the same club that sacked a dinosaur and has cut off ties completely with its greatest ever manager. It might just be possible that they're not whiter than white.

    Both variants are plausible tbh.
  20. SomGooner

    SomGooner Prolific Liker

    And what’s wrong with defending Erdogan? There are former presidents both in Europe and in Amerikkka who have committed far more atrocities namely against YOUR country Iraq and few others and yet no one blames them. In fact they’re celebrated.

    Both UAE and KSA have committed and still continue to commit heinous crimes and no one says sh*t simply because they’re both western puppets.

    Don’t believe everything you read.
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