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Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.

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Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Hahahahaha wasn’t @Oxeki calling him a bad influence?
     
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  2. Blood on the Tracks

    Blood on the Tracks Well-Known Member

    I 100% believe that Özil loves Arsenal. What's not to love? Up until the time Arsène left he was basically allowed to do whatever he wanted and give as much effort as he chose and he'd be protected and coddled by Arsène because he loved his style of play so much. All the while earning huge amounts of money.

    For a lazy and unmotivated guy like Özil it was ideal. Plus he got to live in one of the best cities in the world.
     
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  3. Moleque

    Moleque Active Member

    :lol::lol::lol:
    Özil trying to play the martyr & you're all falling for it.
    God I hate this new religion of victimhood.
    It would be refreshing for people to stand up & take responsibility for their actions rather than constantly blaming others.
     
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  4. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    People like Obama and Blair etc are in different level to Erdogan, but he’s the bogeyman.
     
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  5. <<reed>>

    <<reed>> Meme Merchant

    Pretty sure both parties are scummy.
    But I hope Arteta grows a pair and explain everything publicly because all that drama is tedious.
     
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  6. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Not true. You’re just making stuff up. Now you’re not only questioning Özil, but Wenger too.
     
  7. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    It’s not his job to explain anything if it’s a club decision.
     
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  8. Wilhelm Fink

    Wilhelm Fink New Member

    I believe it was Arteta decision alone Özil being left out from the squad, very sad.
     
  9. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Which competitions is Özil eligible for? And can get be named in any of our squads before January?

    It looks like the end for him, but we've been here before.
     
  10. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Arteta even said Özil is training well.
     
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  11. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Maybe the
    i don't like enter politics it's not my thing and i hate it but erdogan has been committing some crimes against Kurdish in iraq and syria he have hands in the situation going on Syria and he is becoming a dictator. i could be wrong of course but he not clean so i hope Özil be fair.
     
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  12. <<reed>>

    <<reed>> Meme Merchant

    Or maybe it's his decision and it has nothing to do with the club. Just like it was his decision to sign Willian, the no name CB from Brazil, etc.
     
  13. SomGooner

    SomGooner Prolific Liker

    Exactly. As much as we love our club, let’s not act like they’re the torch bearers of morality and decency.

    Stan Kroenke is an American, he’s a capitalist, he’d do whatever it takes to make a quick quid. That’s all he cares about, that’s all he knows.
     
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  14. Blood on the Tracks

    Blood on the Tracks Well-Known Member

    I'm not making anything up.

    Probably Mesut [Özil]," Ramsey told the Youtube channel, when asked to name which of his teammates was the 'teacher's pet'.

    "He gets a few extra days off than the rest of us.

    "He’s always in the boss’ [Arsène Wenger] room asking for something or whatever and he seems to get it."

    Ramsey isn't the only player to have said this sort of stuff either.
     
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  15. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    We don’t know, the Mari and Willian things could’ve been forced on him by Edu and Raul and he’s taking them because things are tough.

    I mean the club structure changed again after Raul, NOW only Arteta is first team manager and not just coach. So NOW he has full power and say.
     
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  16. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    arsenal are owned by a trump supporter
     
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  17. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    But that’s football. It’s always been like that. Ferguson used to treat Cantona and Keane different. George Graham let some of his players get away with stuff. That’s management. You don’t treat everyone like a robot.
     
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  18. Aussie_gunner123

    Aussie_gunner123 Well-Known Member

    No doubt Arteta will get asked about this in one of his next press conferences, I'm looking forward to seeing what he says about this situation tbh.
     
  19. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    “I’m here to talk about football, we picked the players we thought that could help us”.
     
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  20. SomGooner

    SomGooner Prolific Liker

    Yousif, I’m not saying Erdogan is an angel, but there are others who are far worse and destroyed countries and the lives of millions and we never hear those men being demonised as much as Erdogan.

    Doing the right thing is not politics...it’s a humanity.

    What China is doing to the Uighurs is similar to what Hitler has done to the Jews, and we should all condemn them and speak up against it. It’s the least we can do.
     
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