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Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.

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Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    When we switched to 343. Like where can Özil play in that formation? He can only play as a winger, would fans be happy to see him start ahead of Pepe?
     
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  2. ChefMan21

    ChefMan21 Well-Known Member

    Every employer-employee relationship does come to an end; it's the way of the world. On sheer player potential I do hope the club and player can rekindle some magic, because at his best he's a genuine world-class player. Unfortunately his age, the fact January is approaching, and importantly his contract is up at the end of the season means that is highly unlikely - there's no long-term reason for the club and player to really push for that, I would think.

    I do wish the club had spoken out against China alongside Mesut - it is genocide, plain and simple, and I think any organisation and person with a sense of what is right should wholeheartedly back anyone who says something. Values over dollars every day of the week.
     
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  3. Aussie_gunner123

    Aussie_gunner123 Well-Known Member

    Oh well disappointed but what can you do, he might realise sooner then later that he's made a mistake & regret not putting him in there with no other top creativity.
     
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  4. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    That is all that they have left. Just like the Trump supporters here in the US that cart out one BS “argument” and “fact” after another to try to score some points because they are losing. Honestly see little difference in their whining ways of arguing. The Özil lot would fit right in with Trumpworld with their constant complaining and victimhood.
     
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  5. Notorious Big

    Notorious Big Drunka In Friend Zone

  6. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    :lol: Didn't expect that to be so good when I clicked play.
     
  7. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

    Ideal if he went back to Germany. He can prove himself back to everyone.

    then obviously this media narrative against him will automatically end, and he can be judged solely by his performances.
     
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  8. Moleque

    Moleque Active Member

    Yes, much simpler to put on the tin hat & dream up conspiracy theories than to believe the words coming out of the manager's own mouth.
     
  9. MikeVinna

    MikeVinna Well-Known Member

    So gullible to believe Arteta’s statement. When Mesut’s gone we’ll get the whole story. I’ve no doubt its a financial and/or political issue.
     
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  10. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    From who? Özil? Im sorry but I dont trust a word that guy says or implies. Its all tricks and games when it comes to him and the Arsenal situation.

    The message doesnt come from him it comes from his very PR focused team. It would be like listening to a politician :lol:
     
  11. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    I am 99.9% confident it is financial. Not to sound like a broken record but I whole heartedly believe he is not worth his base salary plus whatever crazy bonuses he is probably entitled to.

    He's gone in like 9 months and that 8mil "loyalty bonus" we had to pay in September could have gone towards Aouar or something. Why our fans are so hungry to throw millions towards Özil I will never understand.

    I am happy to move on from him, he's been part of our lowest lows in recent times and people act like this wasn't the case.
     
  12. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    Tell you what, if we still had fans in the stadium or CL football I bet you we would probably see Özil.

    I think that's why rejecting the salary cut angered the club so much.
     
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  13. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    Why are some people acting like losing Özil means an end of an era in terms of our play style, like we are suddenly becoming Burnley Football Club. Signings can be made you know?

    And in terms of typical Wenger-ball Santi was much more of a fit, we've been trash in our build up play and quick passing since he got injured and left. There's fish in the sea though.
     
  14. Tosker

    Tosker Does Not Hate Foreigners

    I'm with you - played several times after the anti China tweet, but never played again after refusing the pay cut

    the dropping of him by Emery and Freddie also suggests minimizing add-ons was already an issue, and the pay cut refusal was the final straw

    had he, however, been outstanding in training I expect that would have been resolved, but he wasn't
     
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  15. Blood on the Tracks

    Blood on the Tracks Well-Known Member

    The way some people talk about him leaving you'd think he was an Arsenal legend.

    In terms of his performances and impact on the club, Özil's not fit to lace the boots of a proper Arsenal creative legend like Dennis Bergkamp. Hell he's not even in the Robert Pires tier. He's about Cazorla level, that's not an insult either, it's a good level.

    You can tell some people weren't old enough to be Arsenal fans in the 90's or 00's if Özil is your measuring stick for greatness in an Arsenal shirt. Trust me, you'd have busted a nut over the things Bergkamp, Pires etc did in an Arsenal shirt if Özil gets you so hot under the collar.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2020
  16. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

    i found the proxy of @Oxeki

    Was he banned or something?
     
  17. say yes

    say yes Thread Title Abuser

    You’re allowed to troll people in the transfer forum. I mean that satanic dwarf @OnlyOne spent the entire window posting fake ITK tweets and talking about Haaland and ended up getting promoted.

    @kash2 does nothing in here but spout gibberish and abuse people, which is why I’m surprised he’s still around. It’s horrible reading this thread.

    Don’t think he’d be allowed to act like this if most of the mods weren’t Özil fanboys.
     
  18. Finesse

    Finesse Well-Known Member

    You are doing the same thing. Which further reinforces my point.
     
  19. drippin

    drippin Well-Known Member

    Doing what? Blaming others for having no arguments when they in fact do? While not contributing anything useful yourself.
     
  20. Finesse

    Finesse Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Just out of interest where did we expect Aouar to play in that system?
     

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