Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.


Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Last edited: Oct 25, 2020
  2. Kav

    Kav Well-Known Member

    This thread is just $;$(!’. I’m taking a break from it.
  3. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Ladies and Gentlemen , have read the last few pages , I'm locking this for your collective well being .:lol:
  4. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

  5. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

  6. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    Good deed that tbf.
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  7. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Did you see Kos chipped in support of Özil this morning. If he was a lazy **** and not a team player he wouldn’t have the support of the squad and ex players.

    Starting to think this has a long way to run.
  8. MikeVinna

    MikeVinna Well-Known Member

    Tweet was removed what did it say?

    No current players of ours have spoken out about it have they? Just makes you wonder what someone like Auba for example thinks.
  9. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief

    Özil's pledged to pay all football clubs mascot's wages for every English team
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  10. Kav

    Kav Well-Known Member

  11. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    Yeah Ainsley has.
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  12. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    There you go

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  13. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    lol where I think the club went wrong was not including Özil at all. They should have went the Lacazette route with him and kept playing him until there was no where to hide.

    If Laca got benched for the rest of the season I am sure there would be no complaints from any of the fanbase. I am so regretful the club didn't go this direction with Özil.
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  14. Flying Okapis

    Flying Okapis Most Well-Known Member

    So strange watching this in 2020.

    Some of the quotes :facepalm:
  15. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Kos is a former player
    I don’t understand the logic. If the clubs existence was all about trying to prove whether Özil still had it or not, I’d say yeah, do that. But we’re meant to be a football club!
  16. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    To be honest, I don’t want any current or former players talking about it. I don’t want our season being undermined by talk of a player who is not even in the squad. I know a lot of people would be happy to see that happen, but I’m not.
  17. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Nobody would be talking about Özil if the team wasn’t playing like Stoke and getting battered.
  18. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    Was tongue in cheek. He's never been held accountable for his bad performances, Arteta or the system would be blamed so it wouldn't even work.

    I do think he should have had a chance to prove his sh*tness though, so the omission does look shady unfortunately.
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  19. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    I still think he was right to turn down the paycut. The money should’ve come from Kroenke.

    Yes it’s not sound planning to have an owner dipping into his pockets every five minutes but a pandemic is something you can’t plan for.

    It’s why the rich get away with so much when the fanbase vilifies the employee rather than the billionaire owner. It’s pure bootlicking.

    Why should an employee who’s not an equity holder suffer the downside when they don’t share the upside? Kroenke is an equity holder and unfortunately when he bought the club he made an investment with all the risks that come with it. Capital raising should come from equity holders not employees.

    If I recall he didn’t even reject it but wanted to question the club on what the real world benefits would be, for them to then turn around and then lay off 55 people and the mascot while spending big in the transfer window shows he was right to be wary.
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  20. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Only weirdos and people with short memories talk about Özil when we don’t get a result.

    Anyway, when is this big reveal by your boy DT?

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