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Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.

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Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Yeah but there will be something else though? That’s Arsenal for you.

    Weren’t you posting this sort of stuff about Wenger and Ramsey too?
     
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  2. Penn_

    Penn_ Established Member

    I honestly can’t believe people still think he was left out because other players were deemed better. :lol:

    Like yeah Arteta might not have him in the 11, I doubt he’s stupid enough to not want him as just an option to have in the squad.
     
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  3. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    You think lots of players are **** and voice it too, so if this board is still hanging effigies of players when Mesut is playing for Doggers of Hampstead Heath FC, you’ll be part of it.
     
  4. Sanchez11

    Sanchez11 Superior Journalist To Charles Watts

    No!!
     
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  5. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

  6. Get These Hands

    Get These Hands Off of my purse !

    8 more months until this clown disappears and takes his fanboys with him. I'm counting the days
     
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  7. Sanchez11

    Sanchez11 Superior Journalist To Charles Watts

    He couldn't lace Totti's boots ffs!!
     
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  8. Pop Tart

    Pop Tart Well-Known Member

    Even trolling roma now..
     
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  9. Fewtch

    Fewtch Ozil at 10 And Emery Out

    All roads lead to Rome. Grazie di tutto Arsenal!
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  10. L3T5 PL4Y

    L3T5 PL4Y Flair Accuser

    He's really not. He hasn't been effective for years which is pretty evident and well documented. Just randomly assuming he'd be good out of nowhere all of a sudden wouldn't really translate into him being good again and it would be a backwards step form Arteta and the club.

    I don't think we even need him. We just need Arteta to sort out our starting eleven in attack putting Willian in the middle, Auba upfront with Pepe and Saka flanking them and stick to a simpler gameplan from there. That's likely to be considerably more effective in sorting out the team than anything to do with Özil.

    Özil's career at the highest level has been done for ages. If it weren't for the contract he'd be in Turkey, China or USA long ago.
     
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  11. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief

    We're crying out for a style of football where he'd be useful. Don't think he would produce that style by being in the team.
     
  12. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    Not every thing is about talent.

    How do you expect Arteta to make the non-negotiables stick if you always got one d*ckhead in the corner tryna negotiate?

    Look at all the dodgy footballing decisions Arteta made and you guys really don’t believe Arteta gave Özil the boot? Course he did.
     
  13. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    He’s just another in a long line of Arsenal players who miraculously become Lionel Messi when they’re not playing. It’s a disease on this board. Has been for years. Well in June or even as early as January, this particular case expires.
     
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  14. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    Yawn, do I need to pull out the results we were having last season while Özil is playing? Games when we looked utterly clueless in attack? Özil solves zero creativity problems, he is a pale shadow of what he was in the past.
     
  15. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    yeah the bum squad thought doozi was a better player .. moronic football understanding on display in their blind hate.

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
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  16. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

    I don't see anyone better than him or doing anything earth shattering while we continued to drop him. Guess I'll stake my bets with someone who at least has a proven track record.

    if you think that way. Let's see.

    Time will tell if you are right about Willian in the middle, and Özil being done.
     
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  17. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz Attention Seeker

    For all the talk about "playmaking talent of his generation" i have been fed by the past 10 years one has to wonder why RM sold him in the first place
     
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  18. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    This thread is a guilty pleasure. It whirls round and round faster and faster, looping the same topics, feeding on itself, creating its own energy. You can actually see some posters unravelling on it before your eyes.

    It’s a scientific phenomenon tbh.

    Sure, in the future we will violently disagree about managers, players and formations but I can assure you nothing will ever come close to these banter levels again.

    Conspiracy theories, human rights issues, mental health, racism, politics, philanthropy....even a sprinkling of football thrown in occasionally. This isn’t just an internal spat between Arsenal fans, the whole world is following this issue.

    Enjoy the golden banter while you can people!
     
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  19. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    yes. Özil is a phenomenon. He overcame all offs and never bent down. Not to the media, not to the racists, not to the brexity incel fans, not to the German FA and not to frikkin trump supporting Stan Kroenke.

    For 2yrs plus they tried to humiliate him, bury him, slander him, ostracize him and sideline him. And yet he stands there unbowed, one of the most talented, most highly paid and most followed and admired footballers of the last decade.

    Raul gone, Emery gone and now its time for Stan to go.
     
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  20. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

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