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Mesut Özil: Think This Might Be It For Me(sut)

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Blood on the Tracks

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As if Özil would know to make an obscure 20 year old phone hacking reference to a B-list celebrity that occurred in the UK when he was barely 13 and living in Germany :lol:

His social media team are too cute for their own good.
 
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Swallow our pride and bring him back in the fold until Szobalakalazamai or Eriksen arrives in January. We move
 

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Just because i feel like stirring stuff :

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Yo @Jury you seen this?
This club has gone to dogs. We're 12th ffs. Bottom half of the table, leaving creative players at home, dealing with dodgy agents, buying washed up Chelsea players on long contracts.

Theo must be laughing at us. We rejected him but he's enjoying football and scored at Wolves last night to get a draw, 7 places above us. Said he feels like a kid again. Bet Arsène's not laughing though. Arsenal is slowly destroying the clubs classy reputation that Wenger strived so hard to build for us.
 

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This club has gone to dogs. We're 12th ffs. Bottom half of the table, leaving creative players at home, dealing with dodgy agents, buying washed up Chelsea players on long contracts.

Theo must be laughing at us. We rejected him but he's enjoying football and scored at Wolves last night to get a draw, 7 places above us. Said he feels like a kid again. Bet Arsène's not laughing though. Arsenal is slowly destroying the clubs classy reputation that Wenger strived so hard to build for us.
i watched some of that match. First checked the lineup online and put it on...just to see theo again. just like you want to check up on how an old friend is doing. It was nice to see him enjoying his football.
 

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This club has gone to dogs. We're 12th ffs. Bottom half of the table, leaving creative players at home, dealing with dodgy agents, buying washed up Chelsea players on long contracts.

Theo must be laughing at us. We rejected him but he's enjoying football and scored at Wolves last night to get a draw, 7 places above us. Said he feels like a kid again. Bet Arsène's not laughing though. Arsenal is slowly destroying the clubs classy reputation that Wenger strived so hard to build for us.

Theo was garbage for us towards the end of his time here and garbage for Everton.

Didn't we sign Gallas when Wenger was the manager? How did that one work out?

Arsène Wenger is a a 1000% certified Arsenal legend, but the clubs reputation is a amalgamation of the efforts of all the staff who have toiled there throughout its 134 year history.
 

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Theo was garbage for us towards the end of his time here and garbage for Everton.

Didn't we sign Gallas when Wenger was the manager? How did that one work out?

Arsène Wenger is a a 1000% certified Arsenal legend, but the clubs reputation is a amalgamation of the efforts of all the staff who have toiled there throughout its 134 year history.
Come on bro. Gallas was 29 when he came to Arsenal, had over 100 appearances. That analogy was more like what happened when Sp**s bought him when he was 33.

And Theo was never garbage ffs. He scored 108 goals, RVP only scored 132. Which supporting striker have we got now scoring the number of goals he did. Sadly he was never quite the same after the knee reconstruction, but he was never garbage.
 

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Theo was garbage for us towards the end of his time here and garbage for Everton.

Didn't we sign Gallas when Wenger was the manager? How did that one work out?

Arsène Wenger is a a 1000% certified Arsenal legend, but the clubs reputation is a amalgamation of the efforts of all the staff who have toiled there throughout its 134 year history.
And another thing. A club’s reputation goes up and down over the years. We were known as boring boring Arsenal when Wenger took over, and the club whose manager had been sacked for taking a bung. Wenger not only took us to new heights in terms of winning trophy’s, the manor of one never having been repeated in all the years since without a single loss, but his beautiful style of play, the classy way in which he dealt with everybody from players to media pundits dragged in supporters from every corner of the globe.

And he enabled us to build a new stadium while keeping the money pouring in from champions league for years, something no other manager could ever have achieved. None of that was down to the octogenarian board, Kroenke or Gazidis that’s for sure, even though they’ll be recorded as having toiled here.
 
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And another thing. A club’s reputation goes up and down over the years. We were known as boring boring Arsenal when Wenger took over, and the club whose manager had been sacked for taking a bung. Wenger not only took us to new heights in terms of winning trophy’s, the manor of one never having been repeated in all the years since without a single loss, but his beautiful style of play, the classy way in which he dealt with everybody from players to media pundits dragged in supporters from every corner of the globe.

And he enabled us to build a new stadium while keeping the money pouring in from champions league for years, something no other manager could ever have achieved. None of that was down to the octogenarian board, Kroenke or Gazidis that’s for sure.

However you want to spin it, Wenger was never, at any point a one man band, keeping the club afloat single handedly, financially or otherwise. It's blind hero worship to think he was.

Sure Wenger accumulated more influence and power in an off the field capacity as his tenure progressed and rightly so, he earned it and he did a great job for the most part. There were still plenty of people behind the scenes in the non footballing side of the club that did their parts too when it comes to things like the stadium move.

Going back even further, there is no Arsène Wenger legendary managerial career at Arsenal without David Dein, don't forget.

No manager, no matter how great he is is an island unto himself when it comes to running a multi billion pound football club.
 
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Özil would have fixed few things but i doubt we'd have turned top 4 candidates with him our problems more deeper than that. The midfield is just working at all there few movement from our wingers also the main reason that Özil not type of players will press run all game modern managers have fetish on these kind of players so players like Özil are forgotten even James Rodriguez admit that
 

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However you want to spin it, Wenger was never, at any point a one man band, keeping the club afloat single handedly, financially or otherwise. It's blind hero worship to think he was.

Sure Wenger accumulated more influence and power in an off the field capacity as his tenure progressed and rightly so, he earned it and he did a great job for the most part. There were still plenty of people behind the scenes in the non footballing side of the club that did their parts too when it comes to things like the stadium move.

Going back even further, there is no Arsène Wenger legendary managerial career at Arsenal without David Dein, don't forget.

No manager, no matter how great he is is an island unto himself when it comes to running a multi billion pound football club.
You’re just stating the obvious. Every sporting great, manager or player needed support. Even Messi needed a mother and father, a sports teacher who encouraged him and managers who bought him and pointed him in the right direction, but it doesn’t detract from his greatness.

David Dein saw Arsène’s talent, brought him to the club and supported him, he deserves a lot of credit for sure.

But that’s when the club was making good choices, not dealing with rotten agents and freezing out talented footballers.
 

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You’re just stating the obvious. Every sporting great, manager or player needed support. Even Messi needed a mother and father, a sports teacher who encouraged him and managers who bought him and pointed him in the right direction, but it doesn’t detract from his greatness.

David Dein saw Arsène’s talent, brought him to the club and supported him, he deserves a lot of credit for sure.

But that’s when the club was making good choices, not dealing with rotten agents and freezing out talented footballers.

I'm not knocking Wenger at all, I firmly believe he's the greatest Arsenal manager I'll see in my lifetime.

It's just weird how things change within 3 years. Those two issues you mentioned, Wenger was getting slaughtered by a lot of the fan base for his ethical stance of not dealing with these super agents and for being perceived as a soft touch when it came to things like discipline in his later years.

You can't please some people. Wenger was past it and needed to go according to most, now the same fans are pining for him.

Obviously it's never going to happen but if Wenger were to come back as manager, they'd turn on him again in no time when the had to deal with the real Wenger rather than the nostalgic / romanticised view they have of him now.
 
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