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Mesut Özil: Think This Might Be It For Me(sut)

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.

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  1. Sammy1887

    Sammy1887 New Year, Same Hate For Reed

    Club should just give the No. 10 jersey now to Willian to further irritate this prick .
     
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  2. Ceballinhos

    Ceballinhos Cheating on Santi

    Or simply him being not good enough and didn't work hard enough to deserve his spot!
    Mikel warned everybody at the beginning. Gave him his chance and didn't take it. Özil has nobody else to blame but himself !
     
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  3. Ceballinhos

    Ceballinhos Cheating on Santi

    I don't know if u can.
    The same thing happened to Ben Arfa in France when he was playing under Emery at PSG. They ended up banning him from the training ground, Ben Arfa sued the PSG for it and won.

    The logic was that you can't ban a player from training ground because he has the right to train there since he's still under contract, to keep his fitness and his rythm to find a new job somewhere else in another club.

    I have no idea how it would work in the UK tbf.
     
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  4. field442

    field442 Hates Journalists Named James Trusted

    Well he puts it across like he turned down a load of money to stay here but we gave him a £73m contract. I bet the difference in value between our offer and the one with the £30m signing-on fee was negligible.
     
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  5. Red London

    Red London Anti-Simp Culture Trusted

    I mostly agree with that, china being the least biggest influencer. The china thing only comes into play as it was just another disagreement between the club and Özil but he played after.
     
  6. Red London

    Red London Anti-Simp Culture Trusted

    Also, Özil is comfy in London. We don't know what club offered it but its likely that he would have preffered to stay in London, Wenger didnt ask too much of him either.
     
  7. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    @American_Gooner As the poll result or current standing in the poll is dated and irrelevant now, why not pose the question of why he’s been left out and list the various conspiracies as options? That’d be quite interesting to see.

    1. Purely football
    2. China
    3. Paycut refusal
    4. Bit of everything

    or something like that?
     
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  8. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Why don't Özil and his agent just come out and say the reason he isn't playing because of criticising China or refusing to take a paycut if either of these are truly the reason. The fact that Özil merely just alluded to something like that with the last line in his statement and his agent won't specify means I can't really believe either of them. The only one who's given a reason here is Arteta.
     
  9. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    This post even forced lurkers to log in and like it... :cool:
     
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  10. Red London

    Red London Anti-Simp Culture Trusted

    It united the people ! The Arsenal fans through and through. Put the pretenders to shame :trophy:
     
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  11. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I know, what is there to lose now? I’d say he’s stopping just short because he doesn’t want to stink up the place completely and lose support, but he’s already well on the way to stinking up the place if the silly stuff on Twitter continues. I can understand the intense frustration he must feel, but he can’t change anything with Twitter.
     
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  12. MikeVinna

    MikeVinna Well-Known Member

    So it’s becoming clearer by the day that Arteta is speaking pure bollocks about Özil simply not being good enough. He’s not even being given a chance and Arteta isn’t being honest about why that is. I’d be pissed off too if something’s going on behind the scenes and Mikel comes out and says ‘look he’s simply ****’ :lol:
     
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  13. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    Let me mark down June 30th 2021 in my calendar.

    That will be some red letter day.
     
  14. Macho

    Macho Established Member Trusted

    A great post that sums up his time here.

    He has been good for us but overall especially recently, it hasn't been worth it.

    As long as we play badly he is going to be an ominous force over the club unfortunately.
     
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  15. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    What did I miss?
     
  16. Leo_ense_

    Leo_ense_ Unknown Member

    Everyone here knows I’m very much in support of the administration at arsenal and I’m the company man, so to speak.

    But we all know the argument of leaving Mesut out for footballing reasons is pure horseshit, especially when guys like Willock/Elneny routinely stink up the joint in midfield.

    If I had to speculate, it’s a combination of his criticism of China and the pay-cut refusal.
     
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  17. sykesy69

    sykesy69 Well-Known Member

    So as an Agent you have a player that hasn't featured at all since March, who refused to leave the club after being demonstrated that he was surplus to requirements and now you want to play the victim and complain that your player hasn't treated fairly by being left out of a squad that only allows 17/19 Non-HG players...

    Boo fvckin' hoo, jog on mate and do one!!
     
  18. Leo_ense_

    Leo_ense_ Unknown Member

    Take me back to deadline day 2013, what a beautiful day it was :drool::drool::drool:
     
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  19. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I mostly agree, but there’s a bit of football in there too Imo which enforces Mikel’s belief that he’s making the right decision. It may not be the biggest factor, but I’m sure it’s there.
     
  20. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Özil played every game before the pay cut. It’s not like any of the players now are doing anything Özil couldn’t - Willian, Willock etc. Willian has been a disgrace since he joined.
     
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  21. Leo_ense_

    Leo_ense_ Unknown Member

    Absolutely, we know Mesut doesn’t have the work ethic to match what Arteta demands of our players. But I still think that’s not nearly as influential in the decision to leave him out as all of the off-field stuff has been.
     
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