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So you're happy to take the the club on their word in terms of injuries, illnesses Mesut sustained etc But when it comes to the reason he was dropped you can't take the club at their word....Okay, no point in carrying on the conversation then.
Think this is what many AM discussions finally boil down to: A complete selection bias in trying to support a player or view. It is intellectually totally dishonest but there you are.So you're happy to take the the club on their word in terms of injuries, illnesses Mesut sustained etc But when it comes to the reason he was dropped you can't take the club at their word....Okay, no point in carrying on the conversation then.
I have no reason to doubt what the club told us about his illness/injuries. I have no reason to doubt someone like Wenger on that either. No credible info has questioned him missing games.
While there is enough to question his exclusion - he played every minute before the pay cut issue and has played no minute after. Now Arteta has also started waffling on Özil, so something is not adding up.
I can give you a perfectly reasonable counter point that doesn't involve conspiracies. He came back after the shut down and wasn't training up to his previous standards, so Arteta didn't pick him. That's a totally reasonable scenario.
I can give you a perfectly reasonable counter point that doesn't involve conspiracies. He came back after the shut down and wasn't training up to his previous standards, so Arteta didn't pick him. That's a totally reasonable scenario.
I know if you @ them they wont show up not sure if there's another way of telling.How do you find if someone is banned? Does it show on the profile? Or do you need an ITK to extract information from the mods?
Shouldn’t you be sucking Raul off in some thread?How is this thread always at the top of the forum?
What could there possibly be to say about him that hasn’t been said 1000 times before?
Shouldn’t you be sucking Raul off in some thread?
Arteta said he was training well though, and repeated that in the summer again.
We’re just going around in circles here. I don’t know what we’re debating now.
Again, on the previous point, nothing to suggest he faked illness or injury which was backed by Wenger. Pie in the sky stuff. I’m even willing to accept he needed a breather which Wenger gave him, which is normal and comes under man management.
I agree we're going around in circles.
Something big has happened between Özil and Arteta / Arsenal at the end of the day. This situation isn't normal.
Either Özil has behaved or trained so poorly that Arteta has decided it would be best to let him pick up his huge wages and freeze him out of the squad or Arsenal / Arteta have gone out of their way to side line one of their most creative players, on massive wages, for no good reason, to the detriment of the team and possibly Arteta's managerial career here.
Ummm as conclusions go yours are sadly incomprehensive.
is this a zoo that only people like you are allowed?He was banned? So we have someone who was serving up legit comedy gold being booted while creatures like @kash2 who calls people incels, trumpists etc is allowed to roam free like some wild animal.