Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by blaze_of_glory, Jan 6, 2016.

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Do you want Özil sold this summer?

  1. Yes

    57.1%
  2. No

    32.1%
  3. Don't know/don't care

    10.7%
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  1. SingmeasongSong

    SingmeasongSong Glass Half Empty

    Özil has still got the magic. Just look at the leicester game and basically all our goal of the season contenders where he's been at the heart of it.

    He's inconsistent and certainly not the one to carry the team in difficult moments, but if we fix our link between midfied and attack with our new signings it can very well mean he's still got 1-2 seasons of 15+ assists in him.
     
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  2. kraphtous

    kraphtous Unai Enemy

    Very cool interview with The Telegraph;

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...t-Özil-insists-arsenal-ready-hit-new-heights/
     
  3. Alkane

    Alkane Well-Known Member

    I really do think that signing Zaha and Ceballos would be good for him. A technical midfielder to combine with and an exciting winger that will create more space and opportunities for Özil. Would hopefully make him more motivated because I do think he still has it in him but can’t be bothered sometimes when certain areas of our team are piss poor
     
  4. THunter

    THunter NOT In A Caravan Trusted

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  5. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    oo350k Mesut Özil : License to Chill (because he might think other areas in the team are piss poor)

    :lol:
     
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  6. field442

    field442 Hates Journalists Named James

    I don’t see where he fits if we sign Ceballos. One of Torreira/Guendouzi will definitely start and Xhaka will most likely be captain. Ceballos will be signing here because he’ll have been told he’ll be a starter. Where does that leave Özil? If we don’t sign a winger he might play out wide but I doubt that. The other option is playing a diamond if we don’t get a winger.
     
  7. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    It's not that Özil isn't good - he'd look immense at City or Barca, it's that he doesn't suit our squad or manager at all.

    I see no role for him here at all, unless he can adapt his role and play as a deeper ball playing midfielder ala the 'David Silva' transformation. Ceballos would render Özil not needed though.
     
  8. kraphtous

    kraphtous Unai Enemy

    Xhaka - Ceballos
    Aubameyang - Özil - Winger
    Lacazette​
     
  9. field442

    field442 Hates Journalists Named James

    Not enough protection in front of the back 4. That will never happen against the big teams or away from home. Maybe if Arsène was still manager.
     
  10. kraphtous

    kraphtous Unai Enemy

    Yeah, forgot for a moment we have a bum manager.

    Xhaka - Torreira - Guendouzi
    Ceballos
    Aubameyang/Lacazette - Winger​
     
  11. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    If we were ok with Ramsey playing with Özil we should expect Ceballos to fill the Ramsey role. Ceballos might need to adjust a bit but I think he's capable. A better left-back, and overall backline, should help. Of course we can adjust our CM starting line-ups based on opposition/circumstances.
     
  12. field442

    field442 Hates Journalists Named James

    They only played togehter seven times in the league and in all but one of those games Özil was playing on the right.
     
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  13. Football Manager

    Football Manager Broken Record

    Ceballos is a cazorla type of player. How can you compare him to a **** with no positioning sense, leaving huge gaps in the midfield, no technique, no skills, no football intelligence player who based his game on physicality, stamina and late runs.

    The problem with ceballos, is his timiming to pass the ball, it’s often late. He need to work more on his passing and teamwork to become as good as cazorla.
     
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  14. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    Actually agree, I think he could do that Ramsey role better than Ramsey, although there likely will be doubters at this point. Not convinced on DLP yet, exactly for the reason you state.

    Also, should add, the talk about formations to fit Özil and Ceballos is a bit like whether we should have brought in Cesc or not, IMO. Options are good, including Ceballos vs. Torreira, even Ceballos vs. Özil, where we can rotate and adjust based on the specific match (and fitness/injuries).
     
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  15. Football Manager

    Football Manager Broken Record

    Good point on whether we should play both ceballos and Özil.

    Ceballos is a good dribbler, active in the build up play but not so good at passing. Özil is a great passer but **** in other areas. Two completely different playing style.

    I would play ceballos in place of Özil. If we play Özil, then ceballos can play behind him, next to torreira.

    I’m quite surprised that everyone here thinks ceballos is a great player without having concerns on his weaknesses. I’m glad you see the same.
     
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  16. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    We would have some rotation/tinkering options with Özil, Ceballos, Torreira, and Xhaka (Xhaka isn't going anywhere), with Willock and AMN also in the mix. Instinctively I would prefer a more CDM-minded player as the third player in CM in starts with Ceballos+Özil, which could provide some opportunity for Chambers to make his mark in the first team squad.
     
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  17. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    That interview gives a bit of hope.

    We go again (ffs)
     
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  18. THunter

    THunter NOT In A Caravan Trusted

    Xhaka next. Blimey.
     
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  19. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Then Mustafi!








    ;)
     
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  20. Tosker

    Tosker Well-Known Member

    it looks as if the PR machine has been busy - hopefully there is real substance to this new rapport

     
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