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Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by blaze_of_glory, Jan 6, 2016.

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Do you want Özil sold this summer?

  1. Yes

    57.1%
  2. No

    32.1%
  3. Don't know/don't care

    10.7%
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  1. Tosker

    Tosker Does Not Hate Foreigners

    all of whom must be thirsting to replace Mesut on a quarter of his wages
     
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  2. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

    Emery fcuked around too much with the team in the beginning. Now I think Özil might have smartly downed his tools
     
  3. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    Clearly not
     
  4. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    so from 2013 when Özil joined until 2017 these players were better. i dont think so Özil was levels above.
     
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  5. Oh_Snap

    Oh_Snap Well-Known Member

    :lol:
    jesus troll somewhere else.
     
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  6. Dennis_Bergkamp_10

    Dennis_Bergkamp_10 Well-Known Member

    Because we are very average as a team. As individuals, we have very good players, average ones and very bad players. You get rid of the bad players first. Özil isn't one of them.
     
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  7. juice man

    juice man Well-Known Member

    Özil is sucking up tremendous resources. We probably can’t afford to pay anyone 350k per week, never mind a guy who turns up once in a while and seldom makes a difference in matches. We’re better off to move on and try to rebuild without him.
     
  8. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    Famblud Özil downed his friggin tools at the start of 2018, all the way through the World Cup right up until now :lol::lol:
     
  9. Fewtch

    Fewtch Ozil at 10 And Emery Out

    The answer to that question is Unai Emery Etxegoien, you know the guy who’s in charge of the tactics.

    Bellerin was our most “creative” player before he got injured as well. It’s almost as if Unai Emery Etxegoien deliberately sets up the team to get the best out of the full/wingbacks with 2/3 DMs who sit deep so Kolasinac can camp at the corner flag to spam cutbacks. It’s the same reason why we insist on taking short corners all the time.
     
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  10. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

    you're probably right
     
  11. HollandGooner

    HollandGooner Well-Known Member

    Özil is the least of our worries indeed.
     
  12. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    I'm interested to know what people define as creativity? Because I'm seeing teams scoring 150+ goals a season without a single player in the number 10 role.
     
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  13. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    The number 10 role is dead. Either adapt like Silva/De Bruyne have done in a 3 man midfield or simply perish. No other top side has a number with license to roam wherever he wants with no responsibility to work hard defensively, track back, press and in general follow the game plan along with the other players.

    Maybe that's why there was very few potential buyers for Özil when his contract was expiring because no top side would be able to fit him in without their team losing something as a result. You can't carry players. Pep, Klopp, Pochettino, Valverde, Simeone, Allegri none of them would want a player who has to be given complete freedom with zero responsibility other than showing up vs Newcastle or Leicester once every few months.
     
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  14. OSBK

    OSBK Well-Known Member

    These may not be entirley accurate

    Cech 100k a week
    Mustafi 90k a week
    Belik 25k a week
    Kola 120k a week
    Neny 50k a week
    Lictenstiener 90k a week
    Mhky 120k a week

    Players on loan that no doubt we are probably paying wages for #charity fc
    Ospina 40k a week
    Chambers 25k a week
    Perez 80k a week

    That 740k in just those players who are parasites. All of those players really should not be making the first team again and should all be moved on. So your right that we cannot afford Özil but please look at the real reason we cannot afford to add other top players or keep them. If we sold Özil it frees up 300k but we are still chucking 740k plus down the drain every week.
     
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  15. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    We had 75% possession last night...
    I'm not sure what you mean by this. Özil is probably the most guilty for not performing in away games. As our supposed 'best player', he would definitely be the most guilty. Nothing to do with any other player/s.
     
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  16. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    Last season aside, this is the poorest we’ve been away from home for over 20 years.

    Lacazette has 6 away goals, goals leaking, no output from guys like Iwobi and Mikhi etc. So many issues.
     
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  17. Gunner-Union

    Gunner-Union Well-Known Member


    with the current squad its hard to know where to start such a poor and rag tag squad
     
  18. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    We improved the players from last season though, Sokratis, Leno, Torreira etc, I expected some improvements.
     
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  19. Gunner-Union

    Gunner-Union Well-Known Member

    just seems like there is so much work to do and so many players need gone. it will take a while if we even get there and unfortunately not many managers are given much time to build a team anymore.
    seems we are in for a long slow slog
     
  20. say yes

    say yes To Sweet Soulful Vinai

    Yep Özil’s so smart he saw this coming and downed tools a year before Emery even arrived.
     
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