Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by blaze_of_glory, Jan 6, 2016.


What should be done with Özil?

  1. Bring him back as a central figure in the team and keep

  2. Play him regularly rest of this season but look to sell in summer

  3. Mostly bench for rest of season and then sell in summer

  4. Don't care, whatever Emery/the upstairs football committee want

  1. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    You are happy to have him around, even though his salary prevented us from keeping Ramsey and will prevent us from signing top class players?
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  2. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    I agree with most of what you have said but it is unrealistic to expect us to bin all those 1st team players and replace them! We are not City, we are not United. We do not have the finances to do it!
    I don't care about your reasoning for wanting to bin, it is irrelevant, we quite simply can't do it!
  3. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    His Salary didn't prevent us from keeping Ramsey. Don't be ridiculous. Where do you get that from?
    We gave an offer after Özil got his contract. Why would the club do that if they knew they could not afford it. Ramsey's head was already turned. Put yourself in his shoes. He has been here for how long? The Italian league is absolutely ideal for him and I am sure he knows that.
    It is far more likely that he was going to decline the offer anyway so we retracted to save face. Ramsey simply isn't worth the huge wages in the EPL, but in Italy he may just be!
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  4. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    His form just before he signed his new contract was almost worth the 350k. You can’t argue with the timing, it was exquisite. I never had a problem with his salary as long as he produced the performances. He was always going to be getting more than he was worth but then what does it matter? He’d have been just another player getting more than he’s worth among loads of others. It comes down to consistency and quality.
  5. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Contrarian

    How good is Nkunku though? I asked elsewhere and no one has an answer. Cheap, not wanted by PSG, not linked to any other top club. Linked with Rennes.
  6. razörist

    razörist Ozil Stan

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  7. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Even the cat can’t bring itself to read the truth!!! I like that cat.
  8. avalonhse

    avalonhse Well-Known Member

    I love Wenger, but anyone has mistakes.

    IMO The biggest mistake he ever made is not selling fabregas, rvp or henry or not buying in 2015.

    It is his decision in 2013 of buying Özil for €50mil, instead of higuain for €40mil . The latter cost us several years of finding a goal machine until Auba came.

    The first has given us a trouble to no end. Simply put, our squad quality does not deserve to have Özil talent. He is a luxury we can not utilize at fullest.
  9. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    His biggest mistake was not buying Fabregas back when he had the chance, all because of Özil.
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  10. TheEconomist

    TheEconomist Well-Known Member

    Agree 100000%. Özil isn't fit to tie Cesc's shoelaces.

    I'd still take Cesc now.
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  11. Furious

    Furious Emery Hired, Telly Off

    We had Santi. Ramsey after his best form ever. Wilshere. But all because of Özil? :lol:

    Besides Chelsea Cesc hasn't outperformed Özil either.
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  12. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    Wenger said himself that he didn't sign Fabregas because we had Özil. Don't see how that's even up for debate.

    He was a revelation that 14/15 season and was a big reason why they won the title, he was outstanding. He did far more for Chelsea in his time there than Özil has ever done for us.
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  13. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    Come on dude, that isn't true. Özil produced top numbers while we had Giroud up top to finish off. Cesc was feeding who again???
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  14. Furious

    Furious Emery Hired, Telly Off

    No he didn't, stop making sh!t up. They have similar numbers. Cesc played for a far more complete team at Chelsea as well.

    He basically had what, one good season for them? First one. In his second year, they finished 10th. 3rd year, he was a sub, albeit a good one. Average in his last full season, before ending up at Monaco in his 5th.
  15. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    Just my opinion buddy! As Furious said, we had prime Cazorla, Ramsey and Sanchez playing for us at that time as well so it's a moot point really.
  16. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    A quick Google and you'll find quotes from Fabregas stating Wenger didnt have room for him in the squad.

    Same as Özil for us then yeah?
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  17. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Contrarian

    Wenger also said there is more to the story, Cesc had apparently set up a deal with Chelsea long before. We’ll never know.
    Jae likes this.
  18. Furious

    Furious Emery Hired, Telly Off

    Was referring to the "he did far more than Özil" part.

    So it wasn't all because of Özil then? But the squad. Good then.

    This season's been Özil's only bad one.
  19. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    But is this opinion based on facts or are you simply making that statement because Chelsea won the league that season?
    Özil nearly smashed the assist record in the EPL. If it wasn't for Giroud going on a 15 game goal drought, he would have...
    I think most agree Özil has been in decline in the last 12 months but to state he hasn't done anything for Arsenal is a bit of an exaggeration. We've won trophies since Özil has been here and while I wouldn't use that as a yard stick to measure (or beat) Cesc with, it is still noteworthy.

    I'm just as disillusioned by the current Özil on his current wages but we can't erase the past to fit the rhetoric.
    blaze_of_glory likes this.
  20. Furious

    Furious Emery Hired, Telly Off

    How dumb do you have to be to come to this conclusion?

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