Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by blaze_of_glory, Jan 6, 2016.

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Do you want Özil sold this summer?

  1. Yes

    57.1%
  2. No

    32.1%
  3. Don't know/don't care

    10.7%
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  1. krackpot

    krackpot Well-Known Member

    agreed, so we should stop obsessing over him and get stuck into the defensive mess.
     
  2. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    But how can we buy top class defenders when we have to pay Özil's fat wages?
     
  3. krackpot

    krackpot Well-Known Member

    I really don't care. If you asked me to sell Laca, Auba or Özil to fund a defensive addition, I'd call you crazy.

    This is like selling one kidney to fix the other
     
  4. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    You do realise that we made an offer for Ramsey after Özil got his contract. Meaning we do have the funds to pay those wages. We also don't have Cech or Welbeck on the books anymore.
    Özil is an issue but let's not exacerbate the issue by making up stories.
     
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  5. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    We made an offer which Ramsey then refused to sign........ our window to resign Ramsey was gone the moment we decided to give Özil his big fat contract.

    Yet that's what we need to do. It's either them or guys like Guendonzi or Torreira which other clubs would actually love to get their hands on. This is what happens when we fall out of the CL for 3 seasons.
     
  6. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mr. Agreeable

    What are you talking about? Özil got his contract while Wenger was still here. Ramsey had a contract offered to him after that. This narrative has zero basis in fact

    Özil signed his new contract in Feb 2018. Ramsey had a contract offered to him between August and November 2018. You're more than half a year off with this theory of yours.
     
  7. krackpot

    krackpot Well-Known Member

    but you understand that with guys like Guendouzi and Torreira, we aren't going to return to top 4 or other tournaments.

    The big cups are won by teams who have big ambition. This means that we will have to buy, play and accommodate luxury players. Even Atletico had Costa, Griezmann and 'luxury' other players.
     
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  8. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    So why didn't Ramsey sign the contract after it was offered to him? Perhaps because the offer was too little and he can easily get more in another club?
     
  9. Arsefan7

    Arsefan7 New Member

    Probably mentioned before but Ozils a Ferrari engine in a Merc, unfortunately the engines gathering some miles and its efficiency is in question. For me the spaces he takes up aren’t productive and doesn’t have the players around him to showcase his genius. How long can we let this continue. Why didn’t we try Mkhi at ACM? Now there ages are a problem.
     
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  10. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    A more accurate description is a V12 AMG tuned Mercedes S class that's performing like a 1990 0.9 L Toyota Starlet and you can't work out why as you've only taken it on a school run a few times.
     
  11. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Oh you lot would love everyone to ignore what s ****house he’s been, I’m sure.

    Why... why not fix both?
    :rofl:
     
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  12. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Easily Triggered

    Özil here for next two years! Will be one hell of a ride!
     
  13. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz Phallus Obsessed

    He is still here... my disappointment is immeasurable. O well, Only june
     
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  14. Harz

    Harz Active Member

    Erdogan's party just lost the re-election of Istanbul

    Seems like you bet on the wrong horse Mesut mate
     
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  15. krackpot

    krackpot Well-Known Member

    sure why not fix the more expensive and less important issue first because reasons.
     
  16. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Come on mate, I refuse to believe that you think any obvious problem is best ignored just because you may have more than one problem. It’s not like we’re in a position where we must prioritise. If we want rid, there are a few simple steps to take to get the ball rolling. You might have to first acknowledge the problem though, which I suspect is your problem :p
     
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  17. krackpot

    krackpot Well-Known Member

    I do acknowledge that we have a problem with his form, and his position in Emery's team. So, drop him or put him in the reserves until he works his way back into the team. That is how you manage a team.

    But the bigger problem we have is our defense, then our midfield. We need to fix that first.
     
  18. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    We tried dropping him.... He responded by engaging in a propaganda war on Twitter and continued to play crap. He’s since been seen verbally abusing the manager and has acted like a total knob all round. He’s made his position untenable imo, and if he’s still part of the squad come August, I’ll be very disappointed in the manager. I’ve conceded that I’ll probably be very disappointed come August!
     
  19. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Easily Triggered

    2 more seasons of Özil. Buckle up or take a break for next two years from football!
     
  20. Harz

    Harz Active Member

    Nah man say bye to Özil
     
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