Country: Nigeria
Player:Saliba
I guess you haven’t watched Marseille because they have a very good ball playing defender whose taller, excellent in the air and called up the French National side. And he would have cost nothing.
This is the summer we get our Van Djik and Allison. Except up top.In the times he’s been here we haven’t really developed a young player or signed a top player. Spent 100M on White, Ramsdale and Gabriel, I’m sure Kloppo got Van Dijk, Allison and Matip for 120M.
How is the midfield better it is worse, when Partey is injured we have one of the worst midfields bar none in the league, most of our goals are created from a moment of brilliance from Saka or ESR or Ødegaard, otherwise without Partey the midfield isn’t even a mid table midfieldI think this argument ignores the diminishing squad and XI vastly
Wenger finished 6th with Özil playing in his prime, Auba in his prime, Alexis in his prime for 6 months, Ramsey playing well and Mkhitaryan/Iwobi playing well. Kosceilny also was still there and performing.
Emery had much the same, minus the Alexis loss in his first season and except Özil was past his best. It should be noted that our games when Ramsey didn't start this season were mid table level of consistency. I think we won 2.5 points a game with Ramsey and something like 1.5 points a game without him.
So we lose Kosceilny, Monreal, Ramsey with Özil and Auba in the retirement home. Then Emery takes us to mid-table and we're conceeding 30 shots a game against Watford. We were in dire straights.
What Arteta has had to cope with a mid table squad quality and since then Özil and Auba permenantly checking out or simply being past their prime and Lacazette's legs completely giving way on him. He took over a vastly diminished squad way past without a striker capable of performing.
TLDR Arteta took over a mid table team full of pensioners and bums and where we finished in prior seasons is not reflective of what that squad was capable of. Taking us to 5th is an achievement and fixing the defense and midfield is an achievement.
Our midfield without Partey is genuinely barely Championship standard.How is the midfield better it is worse, when Partey is injured we have one of the worst midfields bar none in the league, most of our goals are created from a moment of brilliance from Saka or ESR or Ødegaard, otherwise without Partey the midfield isn’t even a mid table midfield
@AbouCuéllar writes War and Peace where he hides in the last couple paragraphs the whoppers he wants to hide. sounds halfway reasonable to you till read some of the doozies buried into a couple hundred words of texts he wants to put out there:Our midfield without Partey is genuinely barely Championship standard.
This was sooooo traumatising WHYY
If he invested the 50mil he wasted on Ben White and invested it in higher priority areas, Saliba's mistake wouldn't have mattered. You make it sound like Ben White is a rock, when in reality he's just an above average CB who ironically killed our CL chance with his mistake/bad luck.
This is why I don't argue seriously with women. When they really want and go serious, women humiliate you with irrefutable arguments like this poor man just got.It's the above statement with * that is up for debate no matter what you think. Arteta's points total becomes largely irrelevant if our league position doesn't improve. It will after this season but that's after two embarrassing seasons. Lucky for him that Emery dragged us in to the gutter statistically. As for steady progress, you can't ignore the number of goals scored and conceded and chances created along with all the negative records he's broken. Those important factors are still poor 2.5 years on. That's not really progress and we've spent a lot to improve. The players have played to their max which is partly why we are in this position but like Auba's 2020 xg, that's not sustainable. You may be proved right in two years time after we've spent £500m but I disagree with your perspective atm
They've been posted over and over again. Search my posts and you can find them in the last 10.Where are the statistics that show Arteta has reversed any decline? what a load of crap.
what’s this ‘reason’ you’re referring to? Because most people can’t see it.They've been posted over and over again. Search my posts and you can find them in the last 10.
@farzad4daarse I'm glad for you to isolate any sentence in any of my posts and challenge it intelligently. I stand by every sentence I write, I don't hide anything in the length of my posts, simply I tend toward length and nuance naturally. Strange potshot you've decided to take here, though, when I had stopped reading this thread to let it go on in its standard foaming at the mouth status, where everyone is happy fueling the hate and enjoying themselves, and not paying much attention at all to reason.
So according to your excellent logic, Özil passed from his prime to not enough to play in a period of 2 months which is the long between the time Wenger and Emery had their last and first game? You really mould the reality to fix your pro Arteta rhetoric.I think this argument ignores the diminishing squad and XI vastly
Wenger finished 6th with Özil playing in his prime, Auba in his prime, Alexis in his prime for 6 months, Ramsey playing well and Mkhitaryan/Iwobi playing well. Kosceilny also was still there and performing.
Emery had much the same, minus the Alexis loss in his first season and except Özil was past his best. It should be noted that our games when Ramsey didn't start this season were mid table level of consistency. I think we won 2.5 points a game with Ramsey and something like 1.5 points a game without him.
So we lose Kosceilny, Monreal, Ramsey with Özil and Auba in the retirement home. Then Emery takes us to mid-table and we're conceeding 30 shots a game against Watford. We were in dire straights.
What Arteta has had to cope with a mid table squad quality and since then Özil and Auba permenantly checking out or simply being past their prime and Lacazette's legs completely giving way on him. He took over a vastly diminished squad way past without a striker capable of performing.
TLDR Arteta took over a mid table team full of pensioners and bums and where we finished in prior seasons is not reflective of what that squad was capable of. Taking us to 5th is an achievement and fixing the defense and midfield is an achievement.
Ok the defend the most bonkers and delusional post you made that Arteta has improved the midfield from Late Wenger/ Emery period. Put aside everything else this is the most daft thing you have said.They've been posted over and over again. Search my posts and you can find them in the last 10.
@farzad4daarse I'm glad for you to isolate any sentence in any of my posts and challenge it intelligently. I stand by every sentence I write, I don't hide anything in the length of my posts, simply I tend toward length and nuance naturally. Strange potshot you've decided to take here, though, when I had stopped reading this thread to let it go on in its standard foaming at the mouth status, where everyone is happy fueling the hate and enjoying themselves, and not paying much attention at all to reason.
I think you are responding to a different poster. I didn't comment on the midfield.Ok the defend the most bonkers and delusional post you made that Arteta has improved the midfield from Late Wenger/ Emery period. Put aside everything else this is the most daft thing you have said.