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Entropics

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Not sure if those amounts are right. But we are still less than those teams (and no doubt less than the wrecks like utd and Chelsea)

According to that capology site only City has higher wages (united with a bit more payroll but not that much)

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I don't know how reliable it really is but most of ours have the supposed "verified" check

 

SA Gunner

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Saw him today say that the team plays in multiple competitions that use different balls, that games are played on different pitches in different conditions, that this variety makes the game more interesting and that it’s just something to adapt to and never an excuse.

Arteta has said A LOT of silly ****, but I thought this one was pretty hilariously blown up by the media. It really wasn’t that deep/serious at the end of the day :lol:

It’s hyped up because there must always be something to write about Arteta and Arsenal.

People want to continuously talk about us, and what Arteta does. From the Arteta is a rookie to he doesn’t know what he’s doing and should stay at the club. To Arsenal will never make top 4, to now Arsenal will forever finish second, Arteta terrorist football, can’t make finals, etc.

Constant talk, constant narratives, it doesn’t stop and won’t stop.

And it doesn’t stop because Arsenal are a really good team again. Even when in poor form like we are now, the level of our competitiveness remains ridiculously high. And competitors will raise their game to their highest levels to compete with us.

It was the same during the peak Wenger era. Problems with only non English players, then only black players, then Arsenal were the dirtiest teams in the league, then Wenger was a joke for stating the team could go unbeaten. Same script for a different time for the same reasons….

Arsenal are good again.
 

SA Gunner

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According to that capology site only City has higher wages (united with a bit more payroll but not that much)

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Aside from Liverpool who are slightly behind this is more or less the going rate for this level.

Looks fine to me to be honest.
 
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It’s hyped up because there must always be something to write about Arteta and Arsenal.

People want to continuously talk about us, and what Arteta does. From the Arteta is a rookie to he doesn’t know what he’s doing and should stay at the club. To Arsenal will never make top 4, to now Arsenal will forever finish second, Arteta terrorist football, can’t make finals, etc.

Constant talk, constant narratives, it doesn’t stop and won’t stop.

And it doesn’t stop because Arsenal are a really good team again. Even when in poor form like we are now, the level of our competitiveness remains ridiculously high. And competitors will raise their game to their highest levels to compete with us.

It was the same during the peak Wenger era. Problems with only non English players, then only black players, then Arsenal were the dirtiest teams in the league, then Wenger was a joke for stating the team could go unbeaten. Same script for a different time for the same reasons….

Arsenal are good again.

We are a good team but the rest of this just simply isn't true and I said the same to Bagels when he was trying to blame the media instead of looking at Arteta.

He says dumb stuff like this all the time whenever he's in a tough spot like his maths, his basketball analogies, the list goes on but because his strong supporters leap at every opportunity to absolve him he keeps doing it.

It was a really stupid thing to say and the reporter probably got a promotion out of coaxing a full on explanation about the difference in balls.
 

Makingtrax

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According to that capology site only City has higher wages (united with a bit more payroll but not that much)

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Saliba and Gabriel have kept Arsenal in the hunt, and are now probably the best central defensive pairing in the league. And Gabriel has been our set piece monster at the other end too, scoring as many goals as Jesus in the league. Between them they’re on £290K a week.

At the other end Havertz and Jesus are on £545K! Any sense to this?


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SA Gunner

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We are a good team but the rest of this just simply isn't true and I said the same to Bagels when he was trying to blame the media instead of looking at Arteta.

He says dumb stuff like this all the time whenever he's in a tough spot like his maths, his basketball analogies, the list goes on but because his strong supporters leap at every opportunity to absolve him he keeps doing it.

It was a really stupid thing to say and the reporter probably got a promotion out of coaxing a full on explanation about the difference in balls.

Remember Klopp talking about the wind blowing as the reason Liverpool drew.

Or Mourinho saying he remote controls Luke Shaw from the touchline.

Or Ange doubling down on always winning things in his second season?

What about Van Gaal speaking about sex masochim in his presser?

Or Pep telling us he isn’t racist because his kids go to school with Indians, blacks and normal people?

I agree Arteta got done by the media for that comment and should know better than to give them such easy headlines, as they try to do with their constant baiting.

But we must also be aware that managers all say stupid things now and again. This is not an Arteta problem, or even a problem at all as far as I’m concerned.
 
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Remember Klopp talking about the wind blowing as the reason Liverpool drew.

Or Mourinho saying he remote controls Luke Shaw from the touchline.

Or Ange doubling down on always winning things in his second season?

What about Van Gaal speaking about sex masochim in his presser?

Or Pep telling us he isn’t racist because his kids go to school with Indians, blacks and normal people?

I agree Arteta got done by the media for that comment and should know better than to give them such easy headlines, as they try to do with their constant baiting.

But we must also be aware that managers all say stupid things now and again. This is not an Arteta problem, or even a problem at all as far as I’m concerned.

It's not an issue at all, but like the rest of those examples you mentioned they all held corn and Arteta should hold his too that all I am saying.

Synical saying there is a conspiracy to get him/us down or Bagels rationalising what he was saying like Arteta had a point I didn't agree with.
 

Makingtrax

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Remember Klopp talking about the wind blowing as the reason Liverpool drew.

Or Mourinho saying he remote controls Luke Shaw from the touchline.

Or Ange doubling down on always winning things in his second season?

What about Van Gaal speaking about sex masochim in his presser?

Or Pep telling us he isn’t racist because his kids go to school with Indians, blacks and normal people?

I agree Arteta got done by the media for that comment and should know better than to give them such easy headlines, as they try to do with their constant baiting.

But we must also be aware that managers all say stupid things now and again. This is not an Arteta problem, or even a problem at all as far as I’m concerned.
Wow! Did you remember all those? Or spend half an hour of your time googling managerial quotes to absolve Arteta. Your loyalty to him is more than admirable bro. Genuinely wish I could like him that much.
 

Blood on the Tracks

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This thread is getting borderline hysterical.

I'm not saying there aren't issues, some on Arteta in various realms of management and some on injuries / illness.

But have a look at the table and the competitions we're still in, does it really warrant this level of conspiracy thinking and panic / anger?

Don't get me wrong there are reasons to be critical of Arteta but you need to try to keep some perspective.
 

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@grange checking this thread over last few pages

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Oxeki

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Saw him today say that the team plays in multiple competitions that use different balls, that games are played on different pitches in different conditions, that this variety makes the game more interesting and that it’s just something to adapt to and never an excuse.

Arteta has said A LOT of silly ****, but I thought this one was pretty hilariously blown up by the media. It really wasn’t that deep/serious at the end of the day :lol:
If Ten Hag had said it, you'd have mocked him and rightly so.
 

Bagels

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This is not even a problem at all as far as I’m concerned.
Yeah, kinda where I’m at, and was sort of my overall point. Like I said it’s not that deep/serious. I guess others feel differently…

Maybe I am just culpable/an enabler as a “strong supporter leaping at every opportunity to absolve him” but I really don’t have very strong personal feelings towards Arteta the way so many here seem to, and I don’t care to “absolve” him of anything, nor am I even sure what there would be here to absolve exactly. The moralizing language over an innocuous comment in a presser kind of furthers my point of a non-serious thing being made serious @Macho

I find it funny that he said “we shot a bunch of shots over the net, the ball is different, we knew this so we have to adapt and do better”… and the EFL deadass came out with a statement saying everyone plays with the same ball (there wasn’t even so much as an indication otherwise? :lol:) It seems an overblown response that doesn’t actually have anything to do with anything the guy said :lol: maybe I’m crazy idk.

In principle I’m alright with a manager commenting on conditions of the match and how the team managed them (to which this would apply). I don’t think it would be taboo to say the pitch was chewed up and we handled it poorly, or the wind was strong and were overhitting passes, etc, in a self-assessment. I’d feel differently if someone said “we lost cause of the ball/pitch/wind”.

The whole thing seems like a nothing-burger to me, but I see my opinion has been reduced to some Arteta-specific thing as this place likes to do, and I already feel silly for writing so much about something I find more or less meaningless so I’ll just leave it there :lol:
 
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If Ten Hag had said it, you'd have mocked him and rightly so.
I wouldn’t give a **** tbh and you won’t have found me caring about any such like comment, by anyone. He’s not the first and won’t be the last to say something like he said, and I care for it as little as all the rest. Some take these guys a lot more serious I guess 🤷‍♂️
 

Dokaka

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This thread is getting borderline hysterical.

I'm not saying there aren't issues, some on Arteta in various realms of management and some on injuries / illness.

But have a look at the table and the competitions we're still in, does it really warrant this level of conspiracy thinking and panic / anger?

Don't get me wrong there are reasons to be critical of Arteta but you need to try to keep some perspective.

It is very interesting going between here and more general football discourse places. Here there are a decently sized group looking for a change of manager, some being extremely vocal about it, but if you bring up Arsenal sacking Arteta outside of this place it generally goes down like "huh??" :lol:

He's doing fine. I hate the brand of football he plays, I'd love to see someone else get the platform to create something more exciting, but he is objectively doing fine. If I was the owner there'd be very few managers I'd look at and say they'd do a better job if my money was on the line. Some just because of ability, some because of language concerns and other various reasons.
 

SA Gunner

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Wow! Did you remember all those? Or spend half an hour of your time googling managerial quotes to absolve Arteta. Your loyalty to him is more than admirable bro. Genuinely wish I could like him that much.

Top of my head stuff, and I’m sure you remember them too ;)

Only one I had to double check was the Pep one, that one seemed too good to be true.

Just like how we can remember all Wenger’s comments, it’s our unhealthy obsession.
 

Oxeki

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I wouldn’t give a **** tbh and you won’t have found me caring about any such like comment, by anyone.
Of course you would. It's part of football fandom. You don't get to blame the media like some are doing here when the team is not playing well while the manager is blaming the board, the fans, players and the ball. When things are going well, his biggest critics are are usually the ones who praise him the most. That's how it should be. If a manager gets over the top praise during his good streak, he should also get criticism during the rough spell too.

No one forced him to stock up on defenders amd neglected our attack or
 

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Some of you are being a tad bit harsh on the Basque one. He’s realized that his talent identification has been poor and is now asking for the financial shackles to be removed to allow him to spend even more sums to add to the squad he’s built since 2019. Obviously the present plan isn’t working so he’s fixing it and fixing it requires money to compete with Chelsea and others in the transfer market.

You want him to manage a team without being able to spend significant sums on the players that he wants? Is arsenal poor? so why should he not be given unlimited resources to get his players?🤦‍♂️

It’s not as if FFP is a problem for the club. It’s not as if he has to concern himself with getting good money from player sales. The owners don’t care about the money he spent in the past so they should just give him what he wants to spend on his targets now and in the summer.

You lot behaving as if you expect him to manage and coach the current players when he can just buy players.

Kroenkes better give him that money or he may leave. Real boss move that 😎
 

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Everton
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Newcastle
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Sunderland
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Fulham
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Tottenham
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