Nonsense. Arsène would have this side top 4 and Unai was only one point of top 4 with Sokratis, Mustafi, Torreira, Guendouzi, Özil and Kolasinac, all of whom have been upgraded. Hell Moyes is top 4 with a squad not nearly as good.
Özil upgraded?
Nonsense. Arsène would have this side top 4 and Unai was only one point of top 4 with Sokratis, Mustafi, Torreira, Guendouzi, Özil and Kolasinac, all of whom have been upgraded. Hell Moyes is top 4 with a squad not nearly as good.
And if the signings are going to be of the calibre of Willian, Cedric, Mari and Ceballos are we really sure we want Arteta to get a team consisting of only his signings?The idea that we can only judge Arteta fairly until the entire squad consists entirely of only his signings is bizarre and unprecedented.
Most of the squad and team is now an Arteta/Edu recruited through transfers, extensions and loans. Why are we 10th all season? It’s not because of Auba who Wenger left behind. Or Laca, a squaddy, probably the best squad striker in the league.100% there are things I believe Arteta can do better. The main one being playing what he perceives to be his best 11. But the players haven't been good enough under Wenger or Emery and now Arteta. Massive issue is poor recruitment and wasted money. The polar opposite in that regard is Leicester. Fantastic recruitment and now they've a fantastic manager extracting the maximum from those players.
This is the part that really p!sses me off as well.If we don’t win the EL, you’ll have to say we’ve gone backwards as we’re probably finishing 10-12th after spending ALL season there, and recruiting 3/4 older poor players on long contracts without improving Martinelli, Saliba, Guendouzi etc.
The team was finishing 4-6th under those 2 managers. It’s an insult to them to include Arteta as the 3rd manager.What happens when the team has been out of form for 4 or 5 seasons under 3 different managers, 2 of whom broke spending records? That to me says recruitment and players have been the problem the managers have been the ones picking up the pieces.
Exactly!Players and managers can both be an issue, I don't know why it's framed as an either or debate on here.
We don’t need to overrate our players to justify Arteta’s tactics has problems. We all know that there are flaws in his tactics. But there players are equally shxt at the same time.
We went from having a team of Van Persie, Fabregas, Hleb, Rosicky, Nasri, Arshavin.....to just left with Sanchez and Cazorla, and then now, with no one good enough. Auba and Laca has been fxxking jokes, anyone who has watched football for more than two seconds knew they were shxt.
Was over the moon when we finally get rid of shxt like walcott, ramsey, giroud, chamberlain....but we get in limited players like Özil, Auba and Laca, who are only good at making the final pass/final finish but doing nothing for the whole match.
People who thought they were good strikers/players are fools, they are levels and levels below Benzema, Suarez, Firmino......
Anyway, I’m glad these type of players will all be gone in the near future. I have been waiting for years.
@Oxeki
I know but rich is a little *****.It was a sitter @Trilly
I know but rich is a little *****.
Depth and quality are two different things. You said we didn’t have depth. We clearly did. Now you’re saying there was depth but it was filled with poor players That’s a different argument.
That relationship was done after the derby. Easy to see it coming.The Independent:
“I cannot talk with everybody individually every week,” said Arteta when asked how Aubameyang took the news that he was to start on the bench. You’d think the one person you’d consult ahead of such a big game would be your captain, especially if you were going to start without him."
Man management, a big weakness.
My worry is though that sacking Arteta is the easy way out for the Kroenke's, who are the real issue at this football club.