Mikel Arteta: Blinded By The Lights

What does Mikel need to do to keep his job in your opinion?


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Jury

AM's drunk uncle, looking for excuses 🤥
The early spring shoots of a HairSpray x Jury link up?!

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If it is, do you promise not to throw another epic hissy fit and demand thread bans and maybe even your own ‘mIkEl iS sCum’ thread like you did when you totally lost it on some weird power trip in the Özil thread? Or is the relentless negativity and cross-thread rage fair game now?
 

Jury

AM's drunk uncle, looking for excuses 🤥
I see Kav as attached himself to Trilly’s anus pubes as well 🤣

edit: he withdrew the red card, but I’m not retracting 😎
 

hydrofluoric acid

Many Men Wish Death Upon Me
Don't agree with everything Merson says, but there is a hint of truth in it tbh.

Liverpool had a massive weakness at CB, but we didn't even try to go after it, don't think we even created a chance against them...we approached the game playing for a draw, which allowed Liverpool to build up confidence and beat us easily in the 2nd half...if we went at them we might have still lost, but at least we would have tried.

We played against Liverpool like it was still 2019 and they were at full strength and full confidence, everyone has been beating them recently...don't even think this Madrid team is that good, but they beat Liverpool like it was nothing!

It's ok playing on the counter in big games, but sometimes you have to go for it imo...Arteta needs to get past his inferiority complex in certain games, sometimes attack is the best form of defence.

This is the thing. This is not just the Arteta problem but it also happened under Emery and Wenger in Wenger last year. It's just like we have accepted we always have to be the underdogs in the big games and we play them a lot more as the reactive team instead of proactive. When we are reactive we just get amazed by the intensity of the other opponent and fold and drop deeper.

Not only that but when that happens everything we are good at just goes out of the window. The passing and the movement we are usually good at just go away somehow. I and my friend @Trilly probably started talking about this many years ago but when this stuff happens we struggle with the simplest passing and simplest movements. It's so weird because ever since Wenger we are a team that trains short passes and movements.

Maybe we won't start to see improvements until we get a manager who has a more proactive style instead of reactive one. It was why I wanted to try Brendan Rodgers here. He is a weird fellah but he seems to implement his style on the team very quickly and even if it doesn't always work out it is a lot more proactive than reactive.
 

Kav

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I see Kav as attached himself to Trilly’s anus pubes as well 🤣

edit: he withdrew the red card, but I’m not retracting 😎

Was that necessary though?

I’m just lurking and enjoying the back and forth. You had to go there didn’t you?It’s between you and trilly and hairspray.

Leave me out of it. I will instigate **** however I want. Lol.
 

Jury

AM's drunk uncle, looking for excuses 🤥
Was that necessary though?

I’m just lurking and enjoying the back and forth. You had to go there didn’t you?It’s between you and trilly and hairspray.

Leave me out of it. I will instigate **** however I want. Lol.
Stay clear then. You must suppress the urge to brock your back for the Dagenham douche.
 

Macho

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For those of us who try to keep alive a flicker of optimism, that game was a killer.
See, if you've been rocking with Arteta the whole time I personally don't understand this.

A- It's Liverpool, a weaker one - but they have Jota who's on fire
B- We're still in Europa - the main thing that matters really
C- Key personnel were missing, is that a true reflection of the side? not really

To me Arteta is wack, so he basically gets a free pass from me he can do what he likes and I've had this mindset for months.

If you rate Arteta though, there's plenty of reasons to not take that result to heart in my opinion.
 

GDeep™

Cute and Clever
See, if you've been rocking with Arteta the whole time I personally don't understand this.

A- It's Liverpool, a weaker one - but they have Jota who's on fire
B- We're still in Europa - the main thing that matters really
C- Key personnel were missing, is that a true reflection of the side? not really

To me Arteta is wack, so he basically gets a free pass from me he can do what he likes and I've had this mindset for months.

If you rate Arteta though, there's plenty of reasons to not take that result to heart in my opinion.
Nah if you rate Arteta that game was bad. At home, no pressure, two donkeys at the back for Liverpool and we didn’t even get out of our half.

The team that started on Saturday will be the bulk of the team that’s starting next season.
 

GDeep™

Cute and Clever
Also, why do we always go back to Wenger when we hit a bad patch? I know why some of you do it, you’ve been proven wrong non stop for the last 3 years and have to somehow still pull up the old guy but it’s boring now.

Since Wenger has left we can’t even pass and keep the ball. All those years me insulting Stoke and we’re just a multicultural Stoke.
 

GoonerJeeves

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See, if you've been rocking with Arteta the whole time I personally don't understand this.

A- It's Liverpool, a weaker one - but they have Jota who's on fire
B- We're still in Europa - the main thing that matters really
C- Key personnel were missing, is that a true reflection of the side? not really

To me Arteta is wack, so he basically gets a free pass from me he can do what he likes and I've had this mindset for months.

If you rate Arteta though, there's plenty of reasons to not take that result to heart in my opinion.
It is more the manner of the defeat that was so depressing. In most other big games we've been solid and competitive. This game we just rolled over. It was most unsettling, especially considering the form they were in. I genuinely believed we would put up a decent show, but it was ghastly.

Obviously Europa matters the most, and every team can have an off-day, but it was horrible.
 

Macho

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The team that started on Saturday will be the bulk of the team that’s starting next season.
That front 3 won't be starting next season, I'd be surprised.
Ødegaard, Ceballos aren't our players
Chambers is in limbo

It's really only Leno, Holding, Tierney and Partey starting next season really.
 

dashsnow17

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Merson is a dimwit, but that Liverpool loss was dreadful. We were totally outplayed. For those of us who try to keep alive a flicker of optimism, that game was a killer.

The idea of judging something on one game is very stupid, but at the same time you could watch any random game of Fergie's Utd, Wenger's Arsenal, Klopp's Liverpool, whoever, and they might have lost or not had a great game, but they'd have never played like that against Liverpool, they'd had never completely capitulated and surrendered any intention to score.

So it is stupid to judge one game, but when one game is as pathetic as that one, it starts to be a basis for judgement.
 

Iceman10

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The idea of judging something on one game is very stupid, but at the same time you could watch any random game of Fergie's Utd, Wenger's Arsenal, Klopp's Liverpool, whoever, and they might have lost or not had a great game, but they'd have never played like that against Liverpool, they'd had never completely capitulated and surrendered any intention to score.

So it is stupid to judge one game, but when one game is as pathetic as that one, it starts to be a basis for judgement.

Knew the international break excuse would come up sometime, esp. with other odd results that weekend, but none of that excuses persisting with Auba out wide and playing Chambers instead of Cedric. Both cases showed no learning and stubbornness after the WHU game, and doubly worse against Liverpool who press with their full backs. Said it before the match that Chambers should be avoided, play Cedric instead. Crosses against WHU did not make up for being found wanting early on where defensive weaknesses were exposed. I don’t know if Arteta is just trying to work on sale value of Chambers, but this sudden liking for using squad depth for full back positions also makes a mockery of his prior marginalisation of AMN.
 

Abhishek Arora

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Lol, you're acting like Liverpool are the pinnacle of achievements. :lol:

They've only won the EPL once in 30 years. Wenger won it 3 times and 7 FA Cups and got to a CL final. But most difficult of all to beat is the invincible's year. Liverpool will never manage that in the next century. They've had their day in the sun.

You're supporting the wrong club bro.
Liverpool are literally playing with no centre backs and are still ahead of Arsenal.If they had Van Dijk fit then they would have easily been in the top 4.
I really don't understand how people believe one window suddenly gets a manager what he wants and needs? Unless you're City or Chelsea and can throw oil money at people.

Put it this way, we are currently 9 points behind Chelsea in 4th, if we finish 9 points or less behind 4th then its completely acceptable to allow the manager the summer window to make up those 9 points.

In the grand scheme of things 9 points is a 3 game swing, something we couldve comfortably managed this season without individual errors and maybe with some more quality in attacking areas over the entire season.
i feel it doesn’t matter
The idea of judging something on one game is very stupid, but at the same time you could watch any random game of Fergie's Utd, Wenger's Arsenal, Klopp's Liverpool, whoever, and they might have lost or not had a great game, but they'd have never played like that against Liverpool, they'd had never completely capitulated and surrendered any intention to score.

So it is stupid to judge one game, but when one game is as pathetic as that one, it starts to be a basis for judgement.
We can also judge the first half of the season especially when arsenal played villa at home
 

Blood on the Tracks

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There's no point trying to defend the Liverpool game, performance even more than result.

Arteta messed up badly there. I'm not going to go for this throat over it but there's no reason to try and make excuses for it either.

He dropped the ball there massively. The players individual performances didn't help matters either.
 

Trilly

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If it is, do you promise not to throw another epic hissy fit and demand thread bans and maybe even your own ‘mIkEl iS sCum’ thread like you did when you totally lost it on some weird power trip in the Özil thread? Or is the relentless negativity and cross-thread rage fair game now?
If you want to have a Mikel appreciation thread then feel free. That’s all I wanted for Özil, you guys were spamming the thread with negativity when his fans just wanted to appreciate the player we had.

If you want similar for Arteta then fair enough, I’m not a hypocrite, although I’m not sure what you’d want to appreciate.
 

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