Mikel Arteta: Blinded By The Lights

What does Mikel need to do to keep his job in your opinion?


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Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
Nobody is complaining so much about the free transfer. Its the number of years we have to pay him a guaranteed salary way above the salary a squad player should get.

Plus as I said above. The club that makes you the household name. The club you spent something like 7 years with. The club you had the best season ever supposedly with the year before. The club that is signing top players and playing in the CL and really wants to kick on with you part of the project offers you a 2 year deal and you give all that up to sign for a rival who is mid table going nowhere fast and playing Thursday night football for 1 extra years contract. If I'm Arteta and Arsenal that tells me all I need to know about the man.

I didn't say people were complaining about the free transfer, I said this is what I would have done.

Play for Don Arteta, or play for Fat Frank...easy choice, imo!
 

14Henry

Well-Known Member
I didn't say people were complaining about the free transfer, I said this is what I would have done.

Play for Don Arteta, or play for Fat Frank...easy choice, imo!
But that was "depending on his wage".

You are telling me that if you were in charge at Arsenal you offer Willian the equivalent of 200k a week for 3 years?

Willian is not at Arsenal for Arteta. He's there for the money and the financial rewards. I could ask my dog why Willian rejects a 2 year deal at Chelsea and signs a 3 year deal with us and it would bark the right answer fs.

Does that not tell you something about his character?
 

Iceman10

Established Member
If I was Arteta, I probably would have signed Willian on a free too tbh...depending on his wage.

Willian was pretty good for Chelsea last season, that player would have been a fine player to have in the squad...a squad that at the time didn't have Ödegaard, was trying to get Özil to leave and had ESR/Gabby injured for quite a while.

The issue was how many matches he started, after Fulham he was poor for what felt like a whole season before Arteta dropped him, that's where Mikel ****ed up.
It's ok to acknowledge mistakes as mistakes. They happen.
 

Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
But that was "depending on his wage".

You are telling me that if you were in charge at Arsenal you offer Willian the equivalent of 200k a week for 3 years?

Willian is not at Arsenal for Arteta. He's there for the money and the financial rewards. I could ask my dog why Willian rejects a 2 year deal at Chelsea and signs a 3 year deal with us and it would bark the right answer fs.

Does that not tell you something about his character?

If Willian said to me "200k and not a penny less!" , I would have replied with a Jim Cornette style "Thank you, **** you, bye!"

Never would have signed him for that :lol:

Didn't really mind him rejecting Chelsea for us though.
 

Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
It's ok to acknowledge mistakes as mistakes. They happen.

Massive mistake by the club, hate that **** now...everytime he plays for us I want to throw something at my tv!

But if I was manager of Arsenal and Willian said he wanted to sign for us (on a acceptable wage) I would have done it too, that was my point...if he really is on 200k a week, I hope it's being taken out of Arteta's and Edu's salary ffs :lol:
 

rich 1990

Not A Big Believer In Diversity
Didn't really mind him rejecting Chelsea for us though.
And you weren't suspicious of why he'd do that? If i was a footballer with real ambition still left in me, i wouldn't turn down Chelsea for us even under Lampard. In fact i wouldn't turn down the Chelsea flower show for Arsenal, ffs.
 

Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
And you weren't suspicious of why he'd do that? If i was a footballer with real ambition still left in me, i wouldn't turn down Chelsea for us even under Lampard. In fact i wouldn't turn down the Chelsea flower show for Arsenal, ffs.

But with this sort of logic, we would never have signed Partey either...as he also left a Champions League club to play for us.

I am sure money played a part, like it did with Thomas...but it doesn't mean a player will always be a poor signing.

But as I said, Willian was an error...and if he is on the amount of money people say, then that's terrible by the club.

But if he was prepared to accept a 2 year deal on a decent wage, I would have done it as the manger...as I would feel he would be a very useful squad player.

I agree with G though that we need to stop signing older players from other Premiership clubs for a bit, it's affecting our reputation quite badly now.
 

Rex Banter

Got Swerved By Gallas
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People just looking at his stats. I watched every Chelsea game after lockdown, guy was a cross merchant and taking penalties, little else.

Remember watching him smoke Pep to give Pool the title. Guy was playing like Neymar.

I’d always thought he was mad overrated but last season he was probably their best player by a handy margin.

I backed the signing but should have known he’d be packing it in after our contract. Never sign an attacking player over the age of 30 unless he’s Messi or Ronaldo.
 

rich 1990

Not A Big Believer In Diversity
But with this sort of logic, we would never have signed Partey either...as he also left a Champions League club to play for us.

I am sure money played a part, like it did with Thomas...but it doesn't mean a player will always be a poor signing.

But as I said, Willian was an error...and if he is on the amount of money people say, then that's terrible by the club.

But if he was prepared to accept a 2 year deal on a decent wage, I would have done it as the manger...as I would feel he would be a very useful squad player.

I agree with G though that we need to stop signing older players from other Premiership clubs for a bit, it's affecting our reputation quite badly now.
It's not like Partey at all. Partey is 5 years younger for one. This was Willian's last big contract. There was absolutely no motivation for him to do well.
 

Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
It's not like Partey at all. Partey is 5 years younger for one. This was Willian's last big contract. There was absolutely no motivation for him to do well.

That's why I would only have taken him on a reduced wage, I wouldn't have wanted him if he was demanding a high salary.
 

rich 1990

Not A Big Believer In Diversity
That's why I would only have taken him on a reduced wage, I wouldn't have wanted him if he was demanding a high salary.
The wages aren't the problem and never was. It's the contract length that should have seen this as a non starter. 3 years even if he had something left in the tank is still outrageous.
 

dka91

Well-Known Member
You cant have known he was a washed up *** based on his last season. I mean if you did then it shows how terrible your football knowledge is.

Hmm I took a quick look at the original Willian signing thread and it's interesting.

So really you have to split it up to before we signed Willian and after. I'll focus more on before he signed; these are the true opinions as they aren't/weren't clouded by bias.

Before we signed him the majority didn't want him. To be honest quite a few thought he was on the decline or would be a *** signing given ability; chief of these opinions; @Hunta @Tir Na Nog @GDeep™ though GDeep wavered on one post but on the whole was threatening to blow up the world if we signed him lol.

@say yes also wasn't happy but didn't think he was rubbish per say, but not good either.

@hydrofluoric acid came in later but clowned the signing too (he thought it would've been stupid).

Interestingly HairSpray you actually weren't too hot for the signing because of the length of the contract. It's only after we signed him that you became more positive so atleast your heart is in the right place.

A lot of people didn't necessarily think he'd be bad in the first year but worried about his age and didn't think it was worth it on three years. Then a few were sort of lukewarm.

But I'd definitely say that only the minority were happy.

Edit: @rich 1990 Thought it would be a terrible and stupid signing.
 

dka91

Well-Known Member
@GDeep™ has been pretty spot on tbf.

Willian, Luiz, Mari, Cedric, Raul being a conman...

The list goes on

Yep, he might come out with controversial stuff but he's been spot on with quite a few of our duds.

I didn't include you above as you didn't comment much in the Willian thread but you actually mentioned that he'd be a poor signing.
 

Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
Some of the posts at the start of the Willian thread are funny at least :lol:

Did seem to be a decent amount of hope that he would be good for us.
 
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Troopz

Established Member
Yep, he might come out with controversial stuff but he's been spot on with quite a few of our duds.

I didn't include you above as you didn't comment much in the Willian thread but you actually mentioned that he'd be a poor signing.


Willian was quite an obvious one tbf.

His main goal was to stay in London that alone is a major red flag.

Three in a row with Cech, Luiz and Willian. I’ve got a feeling another washed up *** is coming soon.
 

Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
We were Linked with Willy right at the peak of The *** Squad v The Usual Suspects beef...good times!
 
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