Mikel Arteta: Managerial Royalty

[Farzad Stoned]

In 4 years we’ve spent £63M across the front 3 on two players. Am I right in saying that? Jesus and Trossard.

No title winning club relies on two 22 year olds to be the match winners by the way.

Whilst we’ve absolutely nailed the defence and to some extent, the midfield, we desperately need two players to take the burden off of Saka/Nelli and let them ****ing develop

Except our fullbacks are garbage. Should have never let go of Tierney. Tomy is great can’t be relied on. White has lost a lot of form. Zinny no joke gets done once or twice a match. Our CBs are great, the starters. Everywhere else our defense has holes

 

[Rasmi]

How do we keep buying players and spending loads of money yet are still short of a couple of world class players and still a thin squad with no rotation options , especially in forward areas.

bad squad management. If you look at Liverpool no one says oh they started Elliot instead of Jones or Szobozlai. Klopp uses his squad and by playing and rotating no one thinks one player for another is huge downgrade. With Arteta players like Jorginho, esr, vieira, Nelson, nketiah play only when his hand is forced. He has created zero competition and Martinelli starts week in week out despite his performance. So Nelson comes in 25 mins and is expected to perform after not playing for ages and by next we back to Martinelli because Nelson didn’t take his chance. That’s why it feels we have thinner squad than our rivals.

 

[Farzad Stoned]

Tired of clueless people blaming the change to a more control based football style this season. It's so far from the truth.

The reality is Jesus is not the same after his multiple knee injuries, Martinelli has been largely poor, Saka is out of form the past games, Ødegaard's long shots aren't the weapon they were last season and Trossard has been poor since Arteta dropped him for Eddie in the first game of the season.
Besides that Arteta doesn't trust any other attacking player besides Eddie. Maybe he got a point maybe not. It's hard to judge since they play so little.

Our attacking players are just worse in the box compared to last season. We still create enough chances every game to leave the pitch as winners.

I disagree we don’t create a lot of chances. I grew up on Arsène, even a bad Wenger team created way more chances. Maybe i smoke good weed but we create 3-5 chances a match in 90 percent of matches

 

[Farzad Stoned]

bad squad management. If you look at Liverpool no one says oh they started Elliot instead of Jones or Szobozlai. Klopp uses his squad and by playing and rotating no one thinks one player for another is huge downgrade. With Arteta players like Jorginho, esr, vieira, Nelson, nketiah play only when his hand is forced. He has created zero competition and Martinelli starts week in week out despite his performance. So Nelson comes in 25 mins and is expected to perform after not playing for ages and by next we back to Martinelli because Nelson didn’t take his chance. That’s why it feels we have thinner squad than our rivals.

El Neny, Viera, and Eddie almost certainly can not play a minute for City or Lfc

 

[Xln]

Seriously considering to take a break watching football btw, it's generally already boring enough but Mikel makes it even worse watching this crap like it's handball tournament.

 

[Farzad Stoned]

Seriously considering to take a break watching football btw, it's generally already boring enough but Mikel makes it even worse watching this crap like it's handball tournament.

Wait, are you coming over to the dark side? Don’t blame me i told you he was w.nker

 

[Xln]

Bro, he went ape sh.t. It is like 4th or 5th time how long can i let racist cracks slide? In America he who snitches first gets paid.

Ps it isn’t like a minor infraction if i send you the DM

Nah it's ok I can imagine it. I already got a minor infraction today cause I flamed Arteta. Was fuming with him not putting on ESR.

 

[Rattata]

bad squad management. If you look at Liverpool no one says oh they started Elliot instead of Jones or Szobozlai. Klopp uses his squad and by playing and rotating no one thinks one player for another is huge downgrade. With Arteta players like Jorginho, esr, vieira, Nelson, nketiah play only when his hand is forced. He has created zero competition and Martinelli starts week in week out despite his performance. So Nelson comes in 25 mins and is expected to perform after not playing for ages and by next we back to Martinelli because Nelson didn’t take his chance. That’s why it feels we have thinner squad than our rivals.

True but I also think it's down to our recruitment for squad players not being good enough. Signings like Vieira, Lokonga and Tavares are incredibly poor. That's 70m wasted for nothing. If we are lucky we get 20m combined for them if we sell them.
Also Arteta ignoring the academy is an issue. Players like Walters, Sousa, Duberry, MLS and Nwaneri would've already received minutes under someone like Wenger.

 

[Xln]

Wait, are you coming over to the dark side? Don’t blame me i told you he was w.nker

I'm neutral on him but the football is just unbearable to watch sometimes. Though today it's against West Ham who really don't care about football as well so whatever but if we keep watching this crap might as well stop watching.

 

[Farzad Stoned]

I'm neutral on him but the football is just unbearable to watch sometimes. Though today it's against West Ham who really don't care about football as well so whatever but if we keep watching this crap might as well stop watching.

European club football is dying a bunch of track stars and weightlifters masquerading where artists used to reign

 

[Rasmi]

True but I also think it's down to our recruitment for squad players not being good enough. Signings like Vieira, Lokonga and Tavares are incredibly poor. That's 70m wasted for nothing. If we are lucky we get 20m combined for them if we sell them.
Also Arteta ignoring the academy is an issue. Players like Walters, Sousa, Duberry, MLS and Nwaneri would've already received minutes under someone like Wenger.

Agree. He has few redeeming qualities which is why I would move him on in the summer unless he wins the league. But he will be here and his overall spending will be over a billion and still not win anything big

 

[HaffBR]

Yeah, I think he is hitting his ceiling as a Arsenal manager.

 

[Rasmi]

Club has been more than generous with him in allocating both massive funds & the time needed to impress.

After 4 years, all he has to show for it is 1 FA Cup & two failed title challenges. He's not as good as either Pep or Klopp to see it to the end.

Club should sack him in the summer & do all it can to court Xabi Alonso here. No doubt he'd love show up his old mate how it should be done.

Exactly. He is not like Poch who can’t sign players he want. He has been given not only a lot of funds. But full control of signings. He spent 170 million on midfield alone in the summer and most people here would say we short in midfield. Either title or sack

 

[Farzad Stoned]

Exactly. He is not like Poch who can’t sign players he want. He has been given not only a lot of funds. But full control of signings. He spent 170 million on midfield alone in the summer and most people here would say we short in midfield. Either title or sack

Short every where. Short in midfield, short of fullbacks, dodgy keeper, no striker, and no bench; literally if every big club wasn’t down we would be nowhere near top of league. Where did the money go?

 

[Farzad Stoned]

This is not a league winning side and this is weakest league has been since Leicester

 

[Sapient Hawk]

Short every where. Short in midfield, short of fullbacks, dodgy keeper, no striker, and no bench; literally if every big club wasn’t down we would be nowhere near top of league. Where did the money go?

He's just lucky it isn't 2008.

Otherwise, I'd have made ties to Madoff's investment scandal.

 

[Farzad Stoned]

He's just lucky it isn't 2008.

Otherwise, I'd have made ties to Madoff's investment scandal.

Bozo spent a 105 million on left number 8 and we ended up with Havertz and Viera. How much has he spent on keeper to downgrade from Emi?

 

[Haphazard]

Tired of clueless people blaming the change to a more control based football style this season. It's so far from the truth.

The reality is Jesus is not the same after his multiple knee injuries, Martinelli has been largely poor, Saka is out of form the past games, Ødegaard's long shots aren't the weapon they were last season and Trossard has been poor since Arteta dropped him for Eddie in the first game of the season.
Besides that Arteta doesn't trust any other attacking player besides Eddie. Maybe he got a point maybe not. It's hard to judge since they play so little.

Our attacking players are just worse in the box compared to last season. We still create enough chances every game to leave the pitch as winners.

Haven't we been doing much better on xg too?

The system change is frustrating but poor form of the forwards will make any system unable to work.

We need to have a good window in Jan while we are still in the title race otherwise it will slip away pretty fast because I expect City to go on an insane run in the 2nd half of the season.

 

[krackpot]

Saka has slowed down (after almost two seasons) and we naturally end up in the gutter.

 

[Clrnc]

Eh, this was always coming. Most of us has been saying that for the whole season. We are more than lucky with many of our wins, grinding out single goal victory and hanging on for our lives at the final whistle. Just because we won many people forget or forgive those performances.

Fact is, even at the best part of last season, we don't really have much combination play. Most of our goals came from individual quality and set pieces. This season the individual quality has dropped so most of our goals came from set pieces or penalties. It's not sustainable. We don't pressure or pepper opponent goalies forcing them saves after saves, we control and be patient, but sometimes can go an entire half without making the opponent goalie touch the ball at all.

People talk about xG and field tilt nonsense but most of our xG comes from penalties which bump it up massively and we survive a lot of counters because of the quality of Rice Saliba and Gabriel.

Our tactics is much better suited to the european football where we can get much more space.