Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

[Mo Britain]

The best? Utd will always be the biggest until you surpass some of the records they’ve set like league wins, multiple European cups, 3 title wins in a row etc.

No doubt though we’d be a super club if Roman was here, on par or just below Real, Barca, Bayern etc.

In terms of trophies Liverpool's European victories dwarf Utd's.

But yes, with big finance we would have won multiple European cups, be ahead of league wins (we're ahead in Cup wins) and would have stronger support amongst the young fanbase than they do. We would have had 15 years of bossing them and the other English clubs.

 

[LG10]

Didn’t see a coaching problem yesterday. I saw a mentality problem, our players were scared ****less because of olympiacos. Arteta didn’t tell ceballos to be a blind dribbling **** either.

The comeback will be mentally huge for the team and olympiacos is the best draw possible, gives us a chance to officially bury the demons of last year.

 

[Big Poppa]

He really wasnt forced to? Who in the mainstream media even knew of ESR? wtf are you talking about? only arsenal fans were talking about that and even they werent sure.

He didnt have to play ESR as even with the injuries he could have just went with a different formation like 5-4-1 meaning no room for an AM

He was neither forced to nor would he have done it if it wasn't for injuries and Willian being forced to self isolate.

I feel that ESR is a little further along though tactically because of the experience he had of regular football at Huddersfield and that's why Arteta trusts him a little more.

That and he doesn't have much defensive responsibility, which is certainly his biggest weakness.

 

[El Duderino]

Didn’t see a coaching problem yesterday. I saw a mentality problem, our players were scared ****less because of olympiacos. Arteta didn’t tell ceballos to be a blind dribbling **** either.

The comeback will be mentally huge for the team and olympiacos is the best draw possible, gives us a chance to officially bury the demons of last year.

How many of those who were on the pitch last night had played olympiacos?

 

[Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility]

Didn’t see a coaching problem yesterday. I saw a mentality problem, our players were scared ****less because of olympiacos. Arteta didn’t tell ceballos to be a blind dribbling **** either.

The comeback will be mentally huge for the team and olympiacos is the best draw possible, gives us a chance to officially bury the demons of last year.

The coaching problem was that we couldn't create enough chances to score. Just 7 shots in the 1st leg, 10 in this one (3 in the 1st half) even though we were minutes away from getting knocked out.

 

[REWB]

The coaching problem was that we couldn't create enough chances to score. Just 7 shots in the 1st leg, 10 in this one (3 in the 1st half) even though we were minutes away from getting knocked out.

Benfica are not the type to concede lots of chance, they have a reasonably solid defense and play quite defensive tactics overall. I remember watching them against Sporting (best team in Portugal right now) away and Sporting only had 9 shot on goal. They are a good team. How many shots/chances are you expecting us to create with the current quality we have in the team?

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

I've gone for a 6 on the faith in Arteta poll.

I still believe he can do the job and turn the club around but my faith has been eroded somewhat this season.

Preseason it would probably have been sitting at a 9.

 

[kash2]

Not really a stupid comment given that the context is people blaming a manager for "Not performing well" in a europa league match which he won. We have an arguably better manager (Rogers, Definitely better in terms of league performance) struggling against weaker opposition and losing the tie on the same matchday.
The whole reaction to Benfica game here sounds like we just needed to turn up and roll them over. It doesn`t work like that in Europe against teams like Benfica.

look this is a football forum. Try to not assume that people here dont understand football and cant get context. We were playing for our lives and leceister was playing for tea. Brendan is a ****head but they have better things to play for these days.

 

[kash2]

We don't know that though.

You developed a hypothesis as to why Wenger started to fail in his last couple of years.

Planes, banners, social media etc and are stating it as a fact because it fits the narrative that you desire to be true. That Wenger hadn't declined as a manger, so the decline had to be due to outside influences.

You're stuck in a loop where you biases won't allow you to even consider alternative and more realistic reasons for Wenger's decline.

You're going to keep presenting the planes, banner, social media line as factual irrespective and there's nothing that could possibly change your mind of that front

wenger failed to dramatically overperform for the last two years according to the bum squad.
In the first of those he won an FA cup and narrowly missed 4th place. In the second he resigned midway, got knocked out in a tight semifinal against Atletico Madrid and finished 6 th in the league.

The hate and abuse and whiny brexity incel moaning was tremendous. There were fights among supporters in the stands and on social media. Kroenke was happy as his tightening death grip on the club went unremarked by a divided fanbase, incessantly provoked by a vocal vicioius minority of fans.

 

[LG10]

How many of those who were on the pitch last night had played olympiacos?

Anyone who was at the club at the time would be affected so pretty much everyone but partey, Oda, gabriel

 

[LG10]

The coaching problem was that we couldn't create enough chances to score. Just 7 shots in the 1st leg, 10 in this one (3 in the 1st half) even though we were minutes away from getting knocked out.

Because our players were scared, the technical quality of our performance was awful. As soon as we were behind instincts kicked in and we were much better.

 

[Batman]

I have to also give you a credit for writing many sentences that missed the point, with a few helpings of rubbish based on your own limited knowledge of situations, like Saliba etc..

And when is giving a bit of acknowledgment ‘wanking’ over a manager? For you to respond with rhetoric like that means it must hurt you to see acknowledgment. That’s a bad place to be.

This began with you going on a factually inaccurate and nonsensical diatribe based solely on your hatred of Arsène Wenger. You could have just kept about your day. Instead you chose to respond to my post with false dreck and are now trying to reassemble the pieces of your ass I've handed to you. That's a bad place to be.

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

wenger failed to dramatically overperform for the last two years according to the bum squad.
In the first of those he won an FA cup and narrowly missed 4th place. In the second he resigned midway, got knocked out in a tight semifinal against Atletico Madrid and finished 6 th in the league.

The hate and abuse and whiny brexity incel moaning was tremendous. There were fights among supporters in the stands and on social media. Kroenke was happy as his tightening death grip on the club went unremarked by a divided fanbase, incessantly provoked by a vocal vicioius minority of fans.

Brexit or Incels had nothing to do with fans turning on Wenger

I've no idea why you keep trying to force that link. It's ridiculous

 

[Iceman10]

I only bring up Arsène Wenger in here to talk about the fan component, sometimes also bad executive hires by the Kroenke’s, and actually to point out that’s why I’ve been more on the conservative side at times with affording some patience to Emery and Arteta. Other than that though Arteta really does not belong in the same conversation as Arsène Wenger in terms of managerial ability because Arteta has just started out whereas Arsène Wenger had long been a manager even before being at Arsenal, particularly at Monaco, and furthermore are we supposed to forget the PL wins and Invincibles under Wenger? I don’t think so.

Arteta can be compared, pros/cons, with Lampard and Solksjaer, but we’re not going to compare him with experienced managers such as Ancelotti, or Wenger. Even he I think would admit he doesn’t deserve that yet. On bringing up youth, esp. Hale End, observations can be made but good and bad in such a short space of tine cannot be used for hard conclusions. Needs more track record over time.

 

[Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility]

Because our players were scared, the technical quality of our performance was awful. As soon as we were behind instincts kicked in and we were much better.

Scared after going behind but what were they scared off in the 1st leg? And not like this is a new thing either. This has been a common theme under Arteta ever since he joined here. If you don't create chances you'll always put your backline under pressure, cause you're expecting a near faultless performance from them. If you go a goal down the defenders know we're unlikely to recover. No wonder we score so little in the 2nd half of games and even fewer after 75 minutes.

 

[Jury]

This began with you going on a factually inaccurate and nonsensical diatribe based solely on your hatred of Arsène Wenger. You could have just kept about your day. Instead you chose to respond to my post with false dreck and are now trying to reassemble the pieces of your ass I've handed to you. That's a bad place to be.

I not going to validate your unadulterated and unsubstantiated horse **** accusations and creative bollocks with a proper answer. No need to. Anyone who can follow a few posts can see your pathetic and bumbling overreaction. Get some fresh air.

 

[kash2]

Brexit or Incels had nothing to do with fans turning on Wenger

I've no idea why you keep trying to force that link. It's ridiculous

they were the easiest stooges

 

[Sanchez11]

I arent even arsed anymore tbh. When the fans return to games and the crap performances keep coming, he will be gone.

 

[Jury]

Brexit or Incels had nothing to do with fans turning on Wenger

I've no idea why you keep trying to force that link. It's ridiculous

Projecting. Clearly imo. Why would anyone be so fixated on such specific things that are totally unrelated to football?

 

[Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility]

We are the 11th best team in the league in terms of big chances created. 13th in terms of shots on target per game.