Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

Do you think that Arsenal should continue with Arteta for the next season?

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Finesse

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Can't be having that, you can't just take games out here and there. End of the day we haven't played good consistent football this season and that's that.

The "that's that" is not our goal. It is just a fact paints a picture which may change as events unfold over the near future. The essential is the facts you stated above are the stages towards developing a consistent rhythm. You learn from what is the reason of inconsistencies to understand how to change it around to a consistent system. However the ultimate question is , do you see any improvement from December onwards vis a vis before December to show there is a direction towards the kind of consistency desired ? Football is a progressive game.
 

Riou

A-M's Resident Jobber
You know the Invincible season is a record worth having, as all the press in this country constantly try to downplay it but at the same time as soon as any team is like 10 game unbeaten into a season, they are always compared to us...everyone wants it, but no one else is getting it :drool:
 

GoonerJeeves

Up The Terriers
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What surprises me is the vitriol which some spews over our manager. I can understand those who think that he hasn't done a good enough job, and that we should hire someone else.

But comments like "low IQ" - "horrible human being" etc Really? It certainly reflects more on the person making the statements.
 

El Duderino

99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One
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What surprises me is the vitriol which some spews over our manager. I can understand those who think that he hasn't done a good enough job, and that we should hire someone else.

But comments like "low IQ" - "horrible human being" etc Really? It certainly reflects more on the person making the statements.

I'm on record saying the ***** stuff is out of line fit him and Emery... Even if I did call Emery Bùmery a couple of times.
 

Macho

Has Trust Issues With Processes
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What surprises me is the vitriol which some spews over our manager. I can understand those who think that he hasn't done a good enough job, and that we should hire someone else.

But comments like "low IQ" - "horrible human being" etc Really? It certainly reflects more on the person making the statements.
I don't like that stuff either and thankfully have refrained from doing it.

Called Arteta cone boy once but that's about it.
 

OnlyOne

Hated for Telling the Tuchel Truth
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I have a dark sense of humour and the *********** and Dicteta stuff absolutely cracked me up. Was howling.

I get why people find it offensive but for me I'm rarely offended.
 

say yes

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I think for me it's close. Wenger deserved a CL if only for the art form he turned English football into. I would have loved to see him lift the trophy and a club like Arsenal is deserving of a CL title. Tbh I don't actually feel the need to see us lift that trophy per se, but we could do with shutting up rival fans who keep mentioning it's absence.

The fact they keep mentioning it is testament to the status of this club and the high expectations Wengers reign has set. Nobody mentions the absence of CL in relation to a Sp**s or Everton as nobody expects them to compete at that level nor have they ever set a footballing standard close to what Arsenal achieved under Wenger.

I do enjoy the fact that the Invincibles season is an achievement that probably won't ever be matched in the PL.

Combine that with the fact that he had the balls to claim he could do it beforehand. Rival fans mock it as a worthless achievement, but the fact no single manager ever dares to speak about going unbeaten speaks volumes.
Invincibles is the greatest bragging-rights winner ever. Definitely prefer it to winning the CL.

Whenever you want to wind up an opposition fan IRL, tell them that it's the greatest achievement in sporting history. They will get rustled and say it's not better than winning the CL. Then you just need to use the immortal line: "Someone wins the CL every year, only one club has ever won a golden PL trophy". Always works.
 

Rimaal

Questionable Taste
Maybe I'm in the minority, the Invincibles were just amazing but I'd take winning the Champions League title against Barca over it. Henry's miss there still haunts me to this day.

What does going the season unbeaten actually give you other than a bit of bragging rights and a nice stat? We've won 13 League titles to date, that's all going the season unbeaten gives you in real terms.

It eats a way at me a bit seeing clubs like Villa, Chelsea, Forest etc with CL / European Cups and us sat on 0.

We should have had 1 if not 2 CL's trophies over the past 2 decades or so. We underachieved on that front for sure.

I'm with you there. I would have loved a CL trophy. The Arsenal of that era deserved it.
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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Arteta fan boys keep telling me that Arsenal have been playing like prime Barca since December yet we are still 10th in March.

Makes you wonder.
We certainly haven't played as well as knackered Barcelona at times but our damnation came in November and December. I saw a stat that showed Everton before their last match had 1/12 points. Despite some wins, we're so far behind because we really were flirting with a relegation battle. Other teams blips can't be used to our advantage because the only consistent and protracted run we've had was a losing one- with some draws. :confused:
 

Tir Na Nog

Changes Opinion Every 5 Minutes
Invincibles is the greatest bragging-rights winner ever. Definitely prefer it to winning the CL.

Whenever you want to wind up an opposition fan IRL, tell them that it's the greatest achievement in sporting history. They will get rustled and say it's not better than winning the CL. Then you just need to use the immortal line: "Someone wins the CL every year, only one club has ever won a golden PL trophy". Always works.


"Is yours gold?" Is literally the best go to. There's literally no comeback to it. We're literally the only team to achieve it.

It's also hilarious how opposition fans try to downplay it all the time yet Liverpool fans were desperate to do it, then they lost 3-0 to Watford and pretended it didn't matter again.
 

Sapient Hawk

The Reason We're Out of Europe
"Is yours gold?" Is literally the best go to. There's literally no comeback to it. We're literally the only team to achieve it.

It's also hilarious how opposition fans try to downplay it all the time yet Liverpool fans were desperate to do it, then they lost 3-0 to Watford and pretended it didn't matter again.

The worst are the Chelsea fans "We got 5 more points the following season winning more matches/points than your invincibles". You can tell their single loss that season at what was back then Eastlands against a City side with such luminaries as Antoine Sibierski, Paul Bosvelt & Sun Jihai stung more than they'd care to admit :lol:
 

Camron

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Invincibles is the greatest bragging-rights winner ever. Definitely prefer it to winning the CL.

Whenever you want to wind up an opposition fan IRL, tell them that it's the greatest achievement in sporting history. They will get rustled and say it's not better than winning the CL. Then you just need to use the immortal line: "Someone wins the CL every year, only one club has ever won a golden PL trophy". Always works.
It's great wind up material. Gets them so worked up. More so than them mentioning the CL.

Fair points.

To be honest every time Man City or Liverpool reach the 20 mark unbeaten run from the start of a season I do start to get a bit twitchy about the Invincibles being equalled, which I definitely don't want to see happen. So it's not like it has no value and it's definitely one of the few things we can hold over other clubs and still brag about, which I like 😏
I highly enjoyed that Watford game. It's literally feeding off scraps, but it was very much uplifting.
 

Finesse

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Another very crucial issue some of us may not have considered or may completely not be aware of is team core player dynamics and power. I speak to very many players and over the years there is this dynamic they always point out. There is this dressing room culture where a click of players , a mixture of senior / key players / big characters who sort of control a dressing room. The rest follow and some just don't get involved but never cross them. These guys control the politics and they are known by the players and managers. There is some form of mutual respect. These guys can over a while directly and indirectly influence a manager's tenure , success and failure. When the going for the Manager gets tough , they can fold up , push the blame to the manager and let the knifes cut him out. That's when we hear the classic he has lost the dressing room / they no longer play or run for him etc.

I think at Arsenal , Arteta over time has disbanded and moved about things to wane the power of the one at Arsenal. It has cost him a lot in the process and nearly cost him the job. Gradually they have come to the realisation he has the very highest backing from the very top. As some fans have realised too , he is not going away soon. Hence they have resigned and now joined the process and playing for the Manager and started finding more in themselves than before. If they keep doing so and throw themselves behind the kind of commitment he wants , you will start seeing top performances from this team. Competition for places will be fierce and the team spirit we seek would finally crystallise.
 

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