Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

Do you think that Arsenal should continue with Arteta for the next season?

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Kav

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He’s not had a full season in charge, what you talking about? Emery had two summers to get his ideas through.

Arteta also won a cup and is now in a EL semi with teams of a similar level. He could win the EL.

Next season he gets sacked if the league form doesn’t improve.

They’ve been in charge for similar amount of games. Emery was here from the end of may 2018 (He took charge of the club in June) to The end of November, 2020. So he’s had roughly 18 months and two summers.

Mikel Arteta has been here December 2019. He’s been here for 16 months. 1 summer and a long mid season break to work on tactical things.

As for their sporting achievement in his first full season Emery made a EL final and finished 5th. In his first full season so far Arteta has made a EL Semi final and is currently 9th. Arteta has won a Fa cup but he also dropped out of the EL very early in his first half season. Emery had the 22 game unbeaten run and was within a few points from CL.
Over the course of their careers at Arsenal Emery has been the better manager and more consistent with results. Also on the performance side his team played better than Arteta’s. Emery’s squad was more imbalanced and he still did better.

The notion that Arteta has not been given enough time is fraught with falsehood. He has had enough time. He’s just not good enough.
 

Macho

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He's had near enough the same time as Mourinho which started the debate today.

They've had very similar results and until the start of the year - style of play. The main difference is one is currently has the players on side, one didn't.
 

DUFFMAN

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They’ve been in charge for similar amount of games. Emery was here from the end of may 2018 (He took charge of the club in June) to The end of November, 2020. So he’s had roughly 18 months and two summers.

Mikel Arteta has been here December 2019. He’s been here for 16 months. 1 summer and a long mid season break to work on tactical things.

As for their sporting achievement in his first full season Emery made a EL final and finished 5th. In his first full season so far Arteta has made a EL Semi final and is currently 9th. Arteta has won a Fa cup but he also dropped out of the EL very early in his first half season. Emery had the 22 game unbeaten run and was within a few points from CL.
Over the course of their careers at Arsenal Emery has been the better manager and more consistent with results. Also on the performance side his team played better than Arteta’s. Emery’s squad was more imbalanced and he still did better.

The notion that Arteta has not been given enough time is fraught with falsehood. He has had enough time. He’s just not good enough.
So Sp**s sack another manager and the search for a trophy goes on.

How many is that now?

Maybe they should try something different like giving a manager time to get it right.
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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There's lots of managers to compare Arteta to but nobody has got such a big job with so little experience. This alarming fact makes every comparison almost null and void. The problem will be if Sp**s get Nagelsman as rumoured. Then the comparisons with everyone in his age group if nothing else will be frenzied
 

Riou

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If we do go into this Super League, then I don't know what happens to Mikel.

With no pressure on him, he might never be sacked...he could be here for ages :lol:
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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If we do go into this Super League, then I don't know what happens to Mikel.

With no pressure on him, he might never be sacked...he could be here for ages :lol:
Probably not. There aren't many elite managers and the ultimate job will be in the ESL only. He's ahead of his time as the PL will become a manager training college. He'll be bottom table Mikel if the ESL takes off.
 

Camus

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So Sp**s sack another manager and the search for a trophy goes on.

How many is that now?

Maybe they should try something different like giving a manager time to get it right.
Pochettino was in charge for 5 years. They were almost mid-season and 14th when they sacked him.

AVB was in charge for a little over 1.5 years. They were 7th when they sacked him and and just gotten hammered 6-0 by City and 5-0 by Liverpool.

Redknapp was in charge for nearly 4 years. His head got turned in Feb of his last season when Capello got sacked and he wanted the England job, their results start to suffer. He outright said if he was offered the England job he'd have quit Sp**s. When he didn't get it he'd already burnt his bridges at Sp**s and had the cheek to ask for a new long term contract, when they couldn't agree on it he was sacked.

Juande Ramos- lol. Given more time he'd have gotten them relegated.

That's the last 14 years of managers. I honestly don't think they were wrong in sacking them. Maybe Poch is the only one you can make a case for but I think his and the team's motivation was shot after that CL final defeat. It seemed like the culmination of 5 years of work and when it flopped it's very, very hard to go again, they needed a change imo.

I don't think their issues are with sacking or trusting managers.
 

AbouCuéllar

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Pochettino was in charge for 5 years. They were almost mid-season and 14th when they sacked him.

AVB was in charge for a little over 1.5 years. They were 7th when they sacked him and and just gotten hammered 6-0 by City and 5-0 by Liverpool.

Redknapp was in charge for nearly 4 years. His head got turned in Feb of his last season when Capello got sacked and he wanted the England job, their results start to suffer. He outright said if he was offered the England job he'd have quit Sp**s. When he didn't get it he'd already burnt his bridges at Sp**s and had the cheek to ask for a new long term contract, when they couldn't agree on it he was sacked.

Juande Ramos- lol. Given more time he'd have gotten them relegated.

That's the last 14 years of managers. I honestly don't think they were wrong in sacking them. Maybe Poch is the only one you can make a case for but I think his and the team's motivation was shot after that CL final defeat. It seemed like the culmination of 5 years of work and when it flopped it's very, very hard to go again, they needed a change imo.

I don't think their issues are with sacking or trusting managers.
Yeah, it's more the fact they've made one good managerial signing in this century lol.

The others have ranged from catastrophical to completely disastrous. Redknapp, AVB, Juande Ramos, Tim Sherwood, Martin Jol, Mourinho...what a ****ing list, lol.
 

Olivier_Giroud

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With Ex-Arsenal player Mikel Arteta still pretending to be Coach/Manager, we will be the laughing stock of the European Super League. Make no mistake, we will be a crowd drawer. Many people will be watching our games, not for our scintillating football but because of our comical performance.
 

krackpot

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Agree with the first part, they were absolutely justified in sacking Mourinho though.

Timing was off and I personally would have given him the cup final since he got them there. Maybe Levi didn't want to hear Mourinho remind them forever he was the one to bring in their first cup in ages.
Why did Jose deserve respect? Played the worst football ever seen at Sp**s, out of all major competitions, thrown aside Alli etc, who is a club asset however you look at it.
they should have let him complete the season. He must be a real scumbag if they acted in such haste.
 

UnbiasedNeutral

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Pls elaborate your reasons for Arteta to stay.
The team is clearly improving and evolving around a strong core of youth. The style of play is attractive and entertaining when executed right and the inconsistencies are to be expected when you're working with young players or players of lesser quality.

In conjunction with this he has began a major squad overhaul by removing several key members of the dressing room who weren't at the required level either in ability or mentality.

The players clearly believe in him and his work along with board members, and as a result he has managed to convince key players for the present and future to sign new contracts. He's also won a trophy in that time and is in the semi finals of a European Cup.

All this whilst working in a Global pandemic which has greatly reduced the time he's had on training pitch to actually coach and mould his team and players.

Sorry if there's any typos I'm on my phone and cba proofreading.
 

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