Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Dec 20, 2019.


On a scale from 1-10 (the most), how much faith do you have in Arteta?

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  1. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    The only criticism I have so far is his persistence with Lacazette and (to a greater extent) Özil. Why is he continuing with what isn't working?
    Wrighty4eva likes this.
  2. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    He hasn't had time to implement anything substantial. He has had game, recover, prep for next match, recover etc. It's a big two weeks as he has the opportunity to coach and maybe make changes. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

    I think Tierney will change everything. It allows a shift to 4 3 3 and to take Özil and Xhaka out. I have a feeling Arteta will lean on experience though.
  3. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    He doesn’t have many options. After Özil and Laca you’re asking guys like Martinelli and Willock to give you something. Add to this that Ceballos has been injured, Pepe out of form, Saka playing LB.

    With Laca you’re hoping he’ll score one and go on a run. Özil has been tremendous in training apparently.
  4. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Özil is the only one who can do anything with the ball, rest of the guys are idiots. We’re a dead team until he gets the ball.
    HollandGooner likes this.
  5. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    It's true that he's a level above most of them technically. He still offers almost nothing at the moment though.

    Willock is young, raw and naive, but look at the way he started the move for Saka's goal the other day. I want to see more of that. Someone who can force a situation while we are struggling.
    Riou likes this.
  6. MikeVinna

    MikeVinna Well-Known Member

    Willocks had games where he looked worse than Özil ever has. Cant rely on him as our main creator, regardless of one good FA cup game.
  7. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Bournemouth was his first good game after 3 months.
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  8. zilfy

    zilfy Well-Known Member

    Being able to do something with the ball and actually doing it are two very different things. When was the last time he actually looked dangerous with the ball?

    I'd pick one or two of those other "idiots" anyday over the German zombie
  9. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Like Willock you mean? Who has been rubbish f0r 3 months?
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  10. zilfy

    zilfy Well-Known Member

    As opposed to Özil, who's been useless for 2 years?

    Most players were useless during that 3 month period anyways. Hopefully he can recreate the form he showed at the beginning of the season.

    But anyway I'd rather have him back up to ceballos (in a 4 3 3), who I think needs a proper shot at it, regardless of whether hes here next season or not. If he can help us get into europa or win some cups then it doesn't matter that hes not here long term- he would have served his purpose.

    I would also love to see Pepe given a shot at ten. I'm aware that's one out of left field and a probably a discussion for another day
  11. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Find it a bit amusing that we discuss Özil in this thread also. As if the Özil thread wasn't bad enough... Fact is that Özil is an attacking player who isn't involved in goals anymore. His defensive abilities we know all to well are almost non-existent. He does jog quite a distance during a game though which is good for his health as he gets older. Good circulation for that old heart...

    Regardless, thanks for trying to provide some sanity here at AM. With regards to Özil it is sorely needed at times.

    PS. Listened to the Handbrake Off podcast. Funny how all ex-Arsenal players that come on there don't rate Özil at all anymore. Kevin Campbell was on in the last one. He was just as down on Özil as Lee Dixon. But here on AM at least we have our pro-Özil keyboard warriors.
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  12. zilfy

    zilfy Well-Known Member

    It's amazing that anyone at all still rates him tbh. It's nothing personal, I would want nothing more than for him to rediscover his old form, but we've waited long enough to know that that won't happen.

    I'm very excited to hear that Mikel wants Maddison, he has that X factor that this team so desperately needs. It also signals that Mikel is looking for an Özil replacement in the summer- I couldn't stand another season of Mesut stinking up the Emirates with his spiritless performances. Maddison wont come cheap but he's young and would be worth the same (probably more) if we wanted to sell in 3 or 4 years time so it would be money well spent
    CaseUteinberger likes this.
  13. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    Enough about Özil. In other news....

    Since Arteta joined Arsenal, there are only two teams in the league with a better defensive record than us. Liverpool and Spuds.

    Certainly something to be pleased about.
  14. ksarp

    ksarp Well-Known Member

    That's progress, you build from the back. His 2 3 transitional setup has helped so we always have 5 in defense not to far from the action, which cuts of counters.
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  15. Bosniak Gooner

    Bosniak Gooner Active Member

    Surely I am not the only one who thinks Raul and Vinai are complete clowns?
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  16. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    I personally am quite keen on Grealish if Villa goes down. We might be able to snap him up a bit under what he would go for otherwise. What I have seen of him, which I have to admit isn't all that much, but he is always in the highlights and does have something about him. A midfield with him and Guendouzi would be just epic. Other teams would just hate us from that get go.
    zilfy likes this.
  17. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    I really like that we are not leaking shots and goals. It's something to build on, a foundation. If Laca and Auba can find their scoring boots we could be rolling soon.
  18. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    I agree with you, next season we need to be getting back in the top 4, I was thinking more about the short term. This season was pretty much done by November so I am not too concerned about League results between now and the Summer. Of course if we could somehow string some form together and win the Europa it would be huge and could potentially take a couple of years off of the rebuild.
    Rex Banter likes this.
  19. Gunner140

    Gunner140 Active Member

    Raul is the only one responsible for this Arsenal's poor season. He brought in players that didn't really move the club forward and he let go Ramsey, who was probably the key player of this team.
    Squillaci likes this.
  20. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    And yet..... there's been no improvement! sHoW mE THe IMprOVEmEnTS!!!

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