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Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Dec 20, 2019.

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On a scale from 1-10 (the most), how much faith do you have in Arteta?

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  1. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    Can someone please explain how the winter break is going to make any difference? We have essentially given the players a week off. If you take travel into account the ' 2 week break' is only 1 week of actual training. The same amount of training we have had between games recently. So what is Arteta going to accomplish in that time?

    Will Lacazette miraculously start scoring? Will Özil now have the balls to shoo or play a through ball? Will Xhaka and Guendouzi get faster? Will Torreira grow? Will Mustafi stop making mistakes?

    These players have ceilings and they have been reached. Arteta divised a system to hide weaknesses but at the end of the day if you insist on picking Özil, Laca, Xhaka, Mustafi and Guendouzi then the outcome will Always be the same.

    Athleticism needs to be added to the midfield and choices need to be made between players.

    Özil or Pepe.
    Aubameyang or Laca
    Torreira or Douzi
    AMN or Xhaka
     
  2. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    Absolutely. And we need to start seeing goals scored and points (and games) won.
     
  3. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    Unfortunately I don't see much change until Tierney returns and he can play with two inverted full backs and two wingers lending to a 4 3 3.

    I fully expect him to keep picking underperforming players .
     
  4. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    It at least gives us an extra week to get the likes of Tierney and Soares back from injury and to get Mari settled into the team.
     
  5. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    It lets players have a chance to reset mentally and a bit phisically. Fitness wise, it probably won't change much, but you see a lot of managers do this in order to get the squad working as one.

    We have our limitations, but this squad should and has to be doing more.
     
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  6. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    People wonder why Xhaka (whom I'm a big critic of, but has been good recently) and Laca are in the team.

    The answer is the same as it was with Emery. When you're on a pinch, you play your senior players, as much as we'd like otherwise. End of.

    You may put Martinelli here and there, but you can't field 5 youngsters and expect them to carry the team consistently. We've seen this before with Wenger.
     
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  7. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Many Men Wish Death Upon Me

    Yeah thank god we are playing our seniors Laca and Xhaka. Thanks a lot they are carrying us to all these draws and losses! Elite! Good stuff!
     
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  8. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    Martinelli---Auba----Pepe
    ----------AMN---------Douzi
    ----------------Torreira
    Saka----Mari---------Luiz-----Bellerin
    -------------------Leno

    Until Tierney is back that's what I want to see when Mari is ready.
     
  9. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    Tbf, in games Emery used 433 with 3 defensive midfielders, we kept getting overrun.

    Maybe it was the way he implemented it.

    At present, we don't have the players to play a midfield three. Our top priority in the summer is a commanding and combative cm/b2b midfielder. Some posters have advocated Partey, but I believe he won't be cheap.
     
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  10. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    You not a fan of holidays or team building matey?
    Don’t these guys have to train on Christmas Day?
    Maybe it’s just a nice break and time to relax.
    And a legendary Dubai Friday brunch of course!!
    No more to it than that ;)
     
  11. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado Trusted

    Almunia looks like he has grown about a foot & filled out. Where was this guy when playing? :facepalm:

     
  12. dbig

    dbig Well-Known Member

    New goalkeeping coach.:(o_O
     
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  13. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    I thought it was a great idea and I posted before the Burnley game that we needed to head to Dubai with a good performance and a win. Arteta got the team selection and subs wrong and we got neither. Rather than going away full of optimism, players like Pepe would have gone away feeling rejected and down! Its still probably better to have a team bonding session in the sunshine though, so hopefully something positive comes out of it. Shame, it could have been a season turning point if we had got 3 pts vs Burnley. I don't even expect us to reach 60 pts now, maybe not even 50!
     
  14. Keplaz

    Keplaz Well-Known Member

    When you listen to what Leno said, about them not being a team on or off the pitch, you realise our problems were much much deeper than we knew.

    The time away will allow them to gel as a team. And this will help with results. They need to play for each other. Which they haven't done properly for a long time.
     
  15. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado Trusted

    Give it six months.

    This bunch of clowns will drop the effort & throw Arteta under the bus when next manager comes in.

     
  16. Riou

    Riou A-M's Resident Jobber

    Manuel could have been built like The Rock back then, still wouldn't have made any impact on his terrible goalkeeping ability.
     
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  17. Keplaz

    Keplaz Well-Known Member

    I'm trying to be optimistic, man. Someone has to get through to them. Mentally, one of the worst Arsenal sides I've seen.
     
  18. SA Gunner

    SA Gunner Hates Tierney And Wants Him Sold Immediately Trusted

    This is a journey with Arteta. For all the good signs and good work on the field so far, do we need to remind ourselves that this is a man who is at the beginning of his managerial career. He is still very much in the learning phase as well.

    What's critical for me in the short term is us surviving this season and putting together a system and style that can be built on with quality additions. For this to happen we need time, patience and money put into the first team.

    I will only start to harshly critique Mikel's work against our accepted level of performance (top 4 and more), when we have started to invest proper players into the squad, and the coach has had around a year's worth of time to work. Of course this is premised on a continued stream of improvement on the field as we have seen so far.

    This decade can be the decade of us reclaiming our spot as the third biggest club in England and one of Europe's finest. If Arteta is still with us by the end of this decade, I think we will be fully back to our old ways.
     
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  19. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Established Member Trusted

    A few of those clowns will be sold before they get a chance to exercise their throwing arm.
     
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  20. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    Doesn't mean that I like it Dennis, but 9/10 managers would do that, including Wenger during his last two seasons.
     

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