Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Dec 20, 2019.


On a scale from 1-10 (the most), how much faith do you have in Arteta?

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  1. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief Trusted

    All action CM. Can do everything a CM is required to do well. Unlike say Xhaka who can't do anything a CM is required to do well
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  2. TriniGunner

    TriniGunner Well-Known Member

    Dude, I remember Premier League managers during post match interviews asking how do Arsenal get into their final 3rd so quickly. We used to attack teams for fun. Our offensive transition was less than 20 seconds.
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  3. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    ah so not a DM then
  4. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief Trusted

    No. Who said he was that?
  5. Macho

    Macho Has Trust Issues With Processes Trusted

    I reckon Arteta may have an experience/seniority bias.
    Would explain his insistence on Laca and why Saliba and so many youngers are missing.
  6. James McAuley

    James McAuley Member

    Is that a good or bad thing? :lol:
    I was thinking the same though, reminds me of cazorla when he would play there.
    Think if we can maintain artetas defensive structure and work rate, with a good spine with guys like gabriel and partey, which wenger didn't have in his later years, with a more wenger esque attack we'd have a pretty good balance.
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  7. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    When is he going to add continuity? How are we going to win games when the line up is different every single game. How can you gain any sort of rhythm with a different midfield or different full back and winger combination?
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  8. James McAuley

    James McAuley Member

    He'd be coming inside though. Interchanging with saka and willian/martinelli. The width and pace would be coming from the full backs as they are now. And Auba and possibly martinelli using their pace in behind.
    blaze_of_glory likes this.
  9. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    I would't be against it. Ramsey played out there and did well, though this board was in full Ramsey hate mode at the time and pretended it was a disaster.
    krackpot, kash2 and James McAuley like this.
  10. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    When? Against who?
  11. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    I do think Saka could be tried more centrally, we need someone who will get on the ball in between the lines.
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  12. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    it takes man-management ability and acumen, not to mention hard work, to be able to guide, select and manage youngsters. Its far easier to bung in all the senior pros one can find into a rigid straitjacketed system and escape with a 1:0 defeat that looks respectable.

    I think he is feeling his way into the job after getting derailed by the covid + raul + Özil saga's and finally coming face to face with the ****heads in the board and realizing what he is up against. Now he is doing what used to be called in sales " no one got fired for hiring IBM as a vendor"
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  13. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Not necessarily good or bad, more so a midfielder playing wide on one side and a more direct forward type on the other side is very Wenger-esque. (Examples Alexis left/Ramsey right or Cazorla left/Walcott right). But like you said Wenger didn't have a Partey type in midfield which would have aided a lot and in general we all saw the flaws in all of Wengers sides. Balance is of course the most important thing now. We used to suffer committing too many forward, now we seem to be constantly playing with a bit of caution to our game. We need balance.
    James McAuley likes this.
  14. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    I recall his goal getting us a point against Sp**s. Overall I remember him having a series of very good games.
  15. Toby Andrl

    Toby Andrl Part Time Stuttgart Fan Trusted

    He did have a pretty good 18/19 until injury.
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  16. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief Trusted

    The way we played was wrong but not sure how Arteta can succeed when he has players like Xhaka and Mustafi on the pitch. He needs to be brave and drop Xhaka and Mustafi

    Look at their positions FFS

  17. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    Play the superstars in their right positions. Fill the 5 attacking channels with attackers not full backs.

    Auba, Pepe, Partey, Gabriel, Tierney, Saka and one of Willian/Esr/Nelson should be the the first names on the team sheet. Invert one full back and allow Pepe to move infield to get closer to Auba. If you are scared of the counter play the fullback who can pocket Zaha and have him sprinting back and inverting seeing as he is comfortable doing it.

    Stop rewarding our limited players because they ****ing train hard.

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  18. GunnerShy

    GunnerShy Well-Known Member

    Thought the first half was really good. In classic Barclays fashion, if you waste possession it will come back to haunt you.

    That said, Mikel needs to get the midfield playing through the lines better. Cannot rely on Luiz opening them up from centreback.

    There is no chemistry between the midfield and front three. No midfielder pushing beyond the forwards either. Need more dynamism. At the moment it's all looking very much like we just look for a Luiz long ball or overlapping full backs
  19. L3T5 PL4Y

    L3T5 PL4Y Flair Accuser

    That and that!
  20. RunTheTrap

    RunTheTrap In midfield with Cellabos

    For a guy who has very little managerial experience, I do find it ironic at how little he seems to trust his least experienced players. Apart from Saka and Nketiah, who is he willing to give time to develop? He came into this job knowing full well about our resources and our direction to use youth so you can’t waste them. Arteta can send them out on loan, sell them, or use them but hoarding players you have no use for is financially irresponsible, especially in this climate.
    Look I’m not saying the youth will save us but they can provide us with much needed competition or funds. Saka is being run to the ground, Willian and Pepe are both inconsistent and Auba should be central. Would a Nelson or ESR be such a problem?

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