Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

On a scale from 1-10 (the most), how much faith do you have in Arteta?

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DanDare

Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief
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then how come we got screwed in such a predictable way last evening. what is his job description exactly? What difference does he make?

All action CM. Can do everything a CM is required to do well. Unlike say Xhaka who can't do anything a CM is required to do well
 

TriniGunner

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Do you remember how we played 07-12?
We were the English Barcelona and like to pass the ball around having possession. That's wengerball.

Dude, I remember Premier League managers during post match interviews asking how do Arsenal get into their final 3rd so quickly. We used to attack teams for fun. Our offensive transition was less than 20 seconds.
 

Macho

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Have to play AMN, Elneny, Nelson, Nketiah, Willock, Saka more. These are uncomplicated players who have technical ability. The system has to be designed according to the personnel. First you gather your best players, then you devise a way to play them together. Thats what management is.
I reckon Arteta may have an experience/seniority bias.
Would explain his insistence on Laca and why Saliba and so many youngers are missing.
 
This is quite literally something Wenger would try.
Is that a good or bad thing? :lol:
I was thinking the same though, reminds me of cazorla when he would play there.
Think if we can maintain artetas defensive structure and work rate, with a good spine with guys like gabriel and partey, which wenger didn't have in his later years, with a more wenger esque attack we'd have a pretty good balance.
 

The_Playmaker

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When is he going to add continuity? How are we going to win games when the line up is different every single game. How can you gain any sort of rhythm with a different midfield or different full back and winger combination?
 
Dani outwide...are you crazy?

He's about as fast as Xhaka :lol:

Though you are on to something here, hope Arteta mixes it up for United next weekend.
He'd be coming inside though. Interchanging with saka and willian/martinelli. The width and pace would be coming from the full backs as they are now. And Auba and possibly martinelli using their pace in behind.
 

blaze_of_glory

Perfect Xhaka Opinions
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He'd be coming inside though. Interchanging with saka and willian/martinelli. The width and pace would be coming from the full backs as they are now. And Auba and possibly martinelli using their pace in behind.
I would't be against it. Ramsey played out there and did well, though this board was in full Ramsey hate mode at the time and pretended it was a disaster.
 

kash2

Obsessed With Jury
I reckon Arteta may have an experience/seniority bias.
Would explain his insistence on Laca and why Saliba and so many youngers are missing.
it takes man-management ability and acumen, not to mention hard work, to be able to guide, select and manage youngsters. Its far easier to bung in all the senior pros one can find into a rigid straitjacketed system and escape with a 1:0 defeat that looks respectable.

I think he is feeling his way into the job after getting derailed by the covid + raul + Özil saga's and finally coming face to face with the ****heads in the board and realizing what he is up against. Now he is doing what used to be called in sales " no one got fired for hiring IBM as a vendor"
 

Tir Na Nog

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Is that a good or bad thing? :lol:
I was thinking the same though, reminds me of cazorla when he would play there.
Think if we can maintain artetas defensive structure and work rate, with a good spine with guys like gabriel and partey, which wenger didn't have in his later years, with a more wenger esque attack we'd have a pretty good balance.

Not necessarily good or bad, more so a midfielder playing wide on one side and a more direct forward type on the other side is very Wenger-esque. (Examples Alexis left/Ramsey right or Cazorla left/Walcott right). But like you said Wenger didn't have a Partey type in midfield which would have aided a lot and in general we all saw the flaws in all of Wengers sides. Balance is of course the most important thing now. We used to suffer committing too many forward, now we seem to be constantly playing with a bit of caution to our game. We need balance.
 

DanDare

Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief
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The way we played was wrong but not sure how Arteta can succeed when he has players like Xhaka and Mustafi on the pitch. He needs to be brave and drop Xhaka and Mustafi

Look at their positions FFS

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The_Playmaker

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Play the superstars in their right positions. Fill the 5 attacking channels with attackers not full backs.

Auba, Pepe, Partey, Gabriel, Tierney, Saka and one of Willian/Esr/Nelson should be the the first names on the team sheet. Invert one full back and allow Pepe to move infield to get closer to Auba. If you are scared of the counter play the fullback who can pocket Zaha and have him sprinting back and inverting seeing as he is comfortable doing it.

Stop rewarding our limited players because they ****ing train hard.

Saka------Auba----Pepe
-----------Willian
--------Partey---Elneny
Tierney---------------AMN
----------Gabriel-Luiz
----------------Leno
 

GunnerShy

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Thought the first half was really good. In classic Barclays fashion, if you waste possession it will come back to haunt you.

That said, Mikel needs to get the midfield playing through the lines better. Cannot rely on Luiz opening them up from centreback.

There is no chemistry between the midfield and front three. No midfielder pushing beyond the forwards either. Need more dynamism. At the moment it's all looking very much like we just look for a Luiz long ball or overlapping full backs
 

L3T5 PL4Y

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Play the superstars in their right positions. Fill the 5 attacking channels with attackers not full backs.

Auba, Pepe, Partey, Gabriel, Tierney, Saka and one of Willian/Esr/Nelson should be the the first names on the team sheet. Invert one full back and allow Pepe to move infield to get closer to Auba. If you are scared of the counter play the fullback who can pocket Zaha and have him sprinting back and inverting seeing as he is comfortable doing it.

Stop rewarding our limited players because they ****ing train hard.

Saka------Auba----Pepe
-----------Willian
--------Partey---Elneny
Tierney---------------AMN
----------Gabriel-Luiz
----------------Leno
That and that!
 

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