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Mikel Arteta: Top Of The Klopps

krengon

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Yet still couldn't score away from home with far superior players to the kids we have leading our attack at present.

And still the attacking issues are nothing alike, so the claim that the attacking struggles have been similar with 3 different managers is blatantly false, as shown by basically all offensive numbers.
If you want to say this is because our attack was far superior a few seasons ago sure go ahead, but that's damning considering the amount we've spent since.

Also the away form in 17/18 was almost relegation level and should have been an anomaly, so any comparison to that is not a good point btw, that's the kind of performance level you get sacked for.
 
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Tom349

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And still the attacking issues are nothing alike, so the claim that the attacking struggles have been similar with 3 different managers is blatantly false, as shown by basically all offensive numbers. The struggle to create chances is a new problem.
If you want to say this is because our attack was far superior a few seasons ago sure go ahead, but that's damning considering the amount we've spent since.

Also the away form in 17/18 was almost relegation level and should have been an anomaly, so any comparison to that is not a good point btw, that's the kind of performance level you get sacked for.

If you look at raw numbers sure. But if you actually watch the games you would see the opportunities are still there but failing to get to the point where a shot is recorded. If you look at our home games we have plenty of opportunities to convert those 1/2-0 wins into 3/4-0 wins but have consistently stuffed up the the pass before the final pass, ruined 3v1 counterattacks etc. Had games like Watford where the ball is going into the back of the net and our own players have stopped the opportunity from being offside. None of that gets recorded in the raw stats. Doesn't count for big chances created or a shot on goal but the opportunity is still the same. Side note, one of the big advantages we had in 17/18 was Giroud off the bench who gave a different avenue to goal.

We've spent 72m on Pepe who has been a massive flop under two managers and 30m on Ødegaard so really we've spent very little on the attack thus the lack of individual quality. We've spent heavily on the areas that we often neglected under Wenger and even amongst all the knee jerk reaction to the past couple of games I think we can agree we look we finally have a settled back 5 for the first time in a long time.
 

Makingtrax

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Our issues are identical to the final season under Wenger. Can't create or score away from home and struggle to win comfortably at home. In that season we scored 20 away goals so just over a goal a game away from home and scored 54 at home which is rather misleading when you break down each individual game with many of our goals coming in the final 10 minutes when the game opened up. We are getting those chances this season in the last 10 minutes but failing to convert often it being a case of miss placing simple passes in the build up rather than the final action.

If you back even further to the 2016/17 season how many times did Giroud bail us out with a late goal using his strength, height and aerial ability to finally convert the numerous crosses we would put into the box.

Emery first season was an outlier with Aubamayeng and Lacazette scoring goals that they have never before or since come close to scoring. Dried up in season 2 which spelled the end for him.

Moral of the story we have struggled to score under the last three managers especially away from home. No one questions Wenger attacking set up despite the latter years of his being a grind and while many of his players have moved on since the few left from his tenure were his attacking options.

So while it may be popular and easy to say the coach is the issue, is this really the case.
:lol: Whatever the issues with Wenger, attacking was never one of them. Even with the players nervous and fans getting rabid in a toxic atmosphere, his attack was extremely healthy 2016/17 xG 63.7 scoring 77 goals and xG 72.2 with 74 goals in 2017/18 and these were his worst 2 seasons.

The current issues are far from identical, we’ve spent over £400m in the three years since Arsène left and our the current manager has now got the expensive squad he wanted. This year is almost a mirror image of last in terms of poverty attack which was xG 52 and scoring only 55 goals.

Breaking it down to home and away or what part of the game the goals were scored is just your agenda. Wenger’s home/away disparity was only prevalent in his final season which could be due to any number of factors. Wenger was an attack specialist, Arteta is clueless.
 

A_G

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if we lose the next 3 matches, Arteta is still here?
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asukru

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Country: Canada

Player:Martinelli
Still here? FFS, this club is a joke with their management! Ill stick to my FIFA CM and pretend to get us back to where we belong!
 

krengon

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If you look at raw numbers sure. But if you actually watch the games you would see the opportunities are still there but failing to get to the point where a shot is recorded. If you look at our home games we have plenty of opportunities to convert those 1/2-0 wins into 3/4-0 wins but have consistently stuffed up the the pass before the final pass, ruined 3v1 counterattacks etc. Had games like Watford where the ball is going into the back of the net and our own players have stopped the opportunity from being offside. None of that gets recorded in the raw stats. Doesn't count for big chances created or a shot on goal but the opportunity is still the same. Side note, one of the big advantages we had in 17/18 was Giroud off the bench who gave a different avenue to goal.

We've spent 72m on Pepe who has been a massive flop under two managers and 30m on Ødegaard so really we've spent very little on the attack thus the lack of individual quality. We've spent heavily on the areas that we often neglected under Wenger and even amongst all the knee jerk reaction to the past couple of games I think we can agree we look we finally have a settled back 5 for the first time in a long time.

Well watching the games I still don't see it, what I see is us struggling to sustain pressure over time or get into good positions constantly. Those examples happen to every single team, it's nothing unique. Even ignoring the raw numbers, I'm sure the advanced numbers show the same picture, I remember our touches inside the box being low compared to before for example, if I can be bothered I'll look it up.

As for signings, spending little on attack is by choice, besides signings like White and Ramsdale were highlighted for their ball playing abilities that was supposed to help us in the build up in attack so I don't see that as purely defensive signings, same with Partey.
As for the back 5, I'll admit I'm not convinced like the rest are, but I'll leave that be.
 

Farzad Stoned

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Country: USA

Player:Havertz
We stink, no excuses he has got money to spend and after 2 years now the team is worse. I felt this run of fixtures was where we played a string of difficult games we would perform well and Arteta and the team could build momentum. Well I am man enough to admit I was wrong. I don’t hope the team fails because we can’t afford to be out of Europe but Mikel is not the answer, it is two years now and I still don’t have a clue what we are trying to do when we have the ball, what is our attack philosophy? To me it looks like poor man’s Joseball 2.0 without the counter striking. Sit deep and pray seems to be our philosophy. This run of tough fixtures was make or break for me and he has stink up the joint.
 

Haphazard

Active Member
We stink, no excuses he has got money to spend and after 2 years now the team is worse. I felt this run of fixtures was where we played a string of difficult games we would perform well and Arteta and the team could build momentum. Well I am man enough to admit I was wrong. I don’t hope the team fails because we can’t afford to be out of Europe but Mikel is not the answer, it is two years now and I still don’t have a clue what we are trying to do when we have the ball, what is our attack philosophy? To me it looks like poor man’s Joseball 2.0 without the counter striking. Sit deep and pray seems to be our philosophy. This run of tough fixtures was make or break for me and he has stink up the joint.

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Ceballinhos

Cheating on Santi
We were laughing at Man Utd & Ole, but we're taking the same path with Arteta. If not worse. The kind of coach who's gonna get a few good results to save his job and give you hope, and shortly after it's like we take 2 steps backwards and we're still mediocre.

It's just madness that a nobody in coaching like Arteta, a rookie, managed to convince the board and the media he's the man for the job. Still after ****ty results.

Like what the hell. Remember all those quotes coming from the media telling us how high arteta's reputation is and that he's probably one of the best young manager in the game.

The guy is seriously a huge flop. It's unprecedented to see a flop backed up that much by its club and the media.
Emery was thrown under the bus for less than that.
 

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