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Mikel Arteta: Top Of The Klopps

Makingtrax

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Sp**s have spent a lot more than us this summer (so far) and wrapped up their business early to be fair.

Not sure he looks at Arteta with any sort of envy other than the free hits.
Yeah, the free hits culture is something every other manager in the league would like. If every club allowed managers 4 attempts at reaching their target (assuming Arsenal's target is Champions League football and not winning the league) then there wouldn't be such a vast turn over. The likes of Nuno and Frank would still be riding high at Sp**s and Chelsea.
 

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With Jesus and Viera, Arteta has now spent well over 300 Million in transfers. Think about it for a minute... over 300 Million!!

For me, he has to win Europa for a successful season. > 300 Mil is a lot of money, and a European trophy is the least we should ask in return.
 

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Based on this can we agree to Arteta having a successful season if he finished top 4?
Of course, all those fans who said top 4 wasn't good enough will be ecstatic. Expectations are on a different level these days.

It's a reflection of what people think the manager is capable of. Winning the league is no longer on people's agenda.
 

Makingtrax

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With Jesus and Viera, Arteta has now spent well over 300 Million in transfers. Think about it for a minute... over 300 Million!!

For me, he has to win Europa for a successful season. > 300 Mil is a lot of money, and a European trophy is the least we should ask in return.
If he can't get top 4 at his 4th attempt spending all that money, he really is very, very, average . . to poor.
 

ArsenesCoatMaker

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With Jesus and Viera, Arteta has now spent well over 300 Million in transfers. Think about it for a minute... over 300 Million!!

For me, he has to win Europa for a successful season. > 300 Mil is a lot of money, and a European trophy is the least we should ask in return.

That averages about 100m a window. Even Everton, Villa, Wolves, Sp**s all have 100m windows. Newcaslte have spent 180m since the Saudi take over

Most of the players were rebuilds replacing past it players. The biggest signing was Ben White or Partey.
 

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How about $200 which is probably about 4 million rupees on your end? You do seem like a Dogecoin guy though.
Love seeing Americans talk **** about other countries like their own nation's favourite pastime isn't getting shot.
 

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We had a top 4 squad when Unai took over, he only missed out by a whisker. Arteta’s £300m spend since then should see us challenging for the title.

That doesn't answer the question. Do we have a top 4 squad right now? Because I think we're 5th or 6th depending on what United get done this window. Sp**s have 2 world class players and we can't attract world class players in 2022. Even Leicester if they hang on to Teilemans rival us in squad talent.

Also saying we had a top 4 squad when we finished 6th and 5th isn't entirely reasonable. When we finished 5th Ramsey was responsible for most of our points. When he didn't play we got mid-table level points. He leaves and we end up mid-table.

Ramsey, Luiz, Koscelny, Auba, Lacazette, Mkhitaryan have all left and all needed replacing. Bellerin needed replacing. Replacing them doesn't mean we've upgraded the squad. We've definitely upgraded from the 8th place season but saying we should definitely get 4th with the players at our disposal right now is perhaps overrating our current standing.
 

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That doesn't answer the question. Do we have a top 4 squad right now? Because I think we're 5th or 6th depending on what United get done this window. Sp**s have 2 world class players and we can't attract world class players in 2022. Even Leicester if they hang on to Teilemans rival us in squad talent.

Ramsey, Luiz, Koscelny, Auba, Lacazette, Mkhitaryan have all left and all needed replacing. Bellerin needed replacing. Replacing them doesn't mean we've upgraded the squad. We've definitely upgraded from the 8th place season but saying we should definitely get 4th with the players at our disposal right now is perhaps overrating our current standing.
We easily have a top 4 squad in terms of money spent. Arsenal have invested the most money out of all the cubs in the top 5 major leagues since Arteta arrived. Partly because we’ve had so little from sales, giving away 11 players for nothing!

If we don’t get 4th investing so much, either the manager is poor or our transfer business has been poor. Simples.
 

Ceballinhos

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We've been spending like an oil club under Arteta, and bar a FA Cup (which was before he got his players) he hasn't much to show for it. Neither in terms of result, or football.

I wonder what it would take for the board/owners to turn against him.

The amount of support he still gets baffles me after pulling off a huge choke when it really mattered.
In europe he got toyed by teams that don't have 1/4 of our financial power.

Fans still looking for excuses by saying he doesn't have a top 4 squad... well, if after 3 years and all this money spent he doesn't have a top 4 capable squad, then it means he's been terrible as his job, along with Edu.
 

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We easily have a top 4 squad in terms of money spent. Arsenal have invested the most money out of all the cubs in the top 5 major leagues since Arteta arrived. Partly because we’ve had so little from sales, giving away 11 players for nothing!

If we don’t get 4th investing so much, either the manager is poor or our transfer business has been poor. Simples.
One of the greatest tricks Arteta has pulled is to convince the fans that the squad he had upon taking over were/are all shocking (even though he clearly didn't think it at the time with his winning champions league in 3 yrs comment :lol:), helps justify finishing 8th and failing to reach CL as he needs time to "rebuild" to the tune of 100s of millions.

Meanwhile a elite manager like Conte comes in, makes no excuses, does not ask for 100s of millions and years and gets 4th the first time of asking.
 

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We easily have a top 4 squad in terms of money spent. Arsenal have invested the most money out of all the cubs in the top 5 major leagues since Arteta arrived. Partly because we’ve had so little from sales, giving away 11 players for nothing!

If we don’t get 4th investing so much, either the manager is poor or our transfer business has been poor. Simples.

I'm 50/50 on Edu, think he's probably a bit of a chancer.

A lot of those 11 players we were never getting money for though, either pay them off or let them hang around till their contracts expired.

The likes of Özil, Kola, Mustafi, Sokratis, Mkhi and even Torreira now, were on ludicrous contracts and most of them weren't budging an inch until they got paid up in full one way or another.

Auba and Willian I put on Arteta but the rest Edu had a thankless task trying to clear up messes made by others. We'd thrown around silly money to some bang average players.
 
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