Mikel Arteta: New Arsenal Head Coach

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Dec 20, 2019.

  1. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Prefers To Be Called Dennis

    Yeah I get what you are saying Dennis but playing bums like Xhaka and Lacazette constantly costed Wenger and Emery his job here and if Arteta is not careful he will see the same fate.
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  2. Moah

    Moah Well-Known Member

    Xhaka is one of the best performers lately and cannot be blamed for us not scoring enough goals. He has balanced the midfield when played alongside Torreira and he was the only creative output in our game vs Burnley.

    His cross had Auba go one on one with the keeper but he fluffed it.
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  3. Bergkamp1988

    Bergkamp1988 Well-Known Member

    Why are we insisting on Willock? Hasn't shown anything special so far. Aside maybe from one good game he had under Emery in September whre he played number 8. Not much since.
    Bad positioning, mediocre passing, mediocre technique.

    Would much rather see Ceballos in a 3 man midfield. He also hasn't been great but in his defence, he's been injured and has had less opportunity then Willock so far. I see much more potential in the Spaniard.
  4. Riou

    Riou Nostalgia Merchant

    Doubt Dani wants to stay here next year, can understand Arteta not wanting to use him too much at this stage.

    Plus we need some physicality in the middle, think Joe could do well in a 3, maybe even try Niles there at some point.
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  5. Riou

    Riou Nostalgia Merchant

    Torreira and Xhaka have both been good since Mikel took over tbf...all of our best runs of form since we signed Lucas, have been when those two have played in midfield together...

    …"bossing the midfield" might be a stretch, but they do compliment each other well...the issue is we haven't got the third midfielder right with them, we need a box to box midfielder who is comfortable when dribbling with the ball.
  6. Bergkamp1988

    Bergkamp1988 Well-Known Member

    You just described Ceballos ;)

    But of course, if he wants to fvck off then so be it.

    Although wasn't he happy at the club until he was sidelined ?
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  7. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    Willock has better positioning and passing than Ceballos and more maturity despite being younger........ plus defends better and is physically stronger. He's more all rounded and has a much higher ceiling than Ceballos, and even if he's not a starter he's always a good option to have on the bench. Ceballos's max potential is to be a poor man's Cazorla, what Cazorla would be with less football IQ. He's a luxury player that only works if everything in the team goes through him, and he's not good enough to be that.
  8. GoonerJay24

    GoonerJay24 Active Member

    Willock hasn't been that bad this year and he's clearly talented with many attributes
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  9. GoonerJay24

    GoonerJay24 Active Member

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  10. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

  11. gunner4lyfe

    gunner4lyfe Well-Known Member

    I stopped reading after that first part
  12. Bergkamp1988

    Bergkamp1988 Well-Known Member

    Ceballos is a poor man's Cazorla : Agreed

    Willock is a better defender : agreed

    The rest of the positive stuff about Willock, you pulled directly out of your ass. Especially the 'higher ceiling' part.

    Willock might be more well rounded but he is mediocre at everything. Ceballos, already has beautiful foot work and better vision. My guess is Ceballos will end up being a good Ligua mid table (perhaps top 6) player. And Willock will grow to be an Everton sub or Premiership starter.
    Just speculating but I really don't see the "high ceiling".
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  13. RunTheTrap

    RunTheTrap Well-Known Member

    Does anyone think Arteta will shift from his double pivot to a single one after the Dubai break or is it too soon? Does anyone think he will even do it?

    I think Arteta is doing the best he can with what he has at his disposal with Xhaka and Torreira at the base of midfield which serves to provide defensive stability and the creative onus on Özil. But I think this midfield only suits the more experienced midfielders in the squad. I think a 3 man midfield would definitely cater towards Cellabos, Guendouzi, Willock, ESR and AMN. I don't think either Xhaka or Torreira would be good enough to be the single pivot and not suited to an interior role so for now at least he will continue with a double pivot.
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  14. Gegen Pressing

    Gegen Pressing Well-Known Member

    Emery was somewhat of psycho , his facial expressions reminded me of Dracula and probably should have done his teamtalks out of a coffin ....

    Arteta on the other hand is reassuring and brings that simple straightforward teamwork attitude that's been lacking.
    I like to think he will turn us into an " no frills" Arsenal of old, hugging the top-5 forever to stabilize us.

  15. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry 24/7

    Well top 5 isn't good enough either, is it?
  16. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Prefers To Be Called Dennis

    Its probably the best our club can do with the ambition of our owners.
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  17. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry 24/7

    Well then they need to **** off! And you need to lead the march, Hydro!
  18. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    It’s a case of having to adapt tactics to the players he has at his disposal. Torreira and Xhaka are our best central midfielders and they are more suited to their deeper roles so that’s how Arteta has to go. If we had amazing box to box or more advanced midfielders I’m sure it would’ve been a single pivot, but we don’t. The young players aren’t better than Xhaka or Torreira.
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  19. #254

    #254 Well-Known Member

    More like poor man's Cazorla with a poor IQ and one footed
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  20. ksarp

    ksarp Well-Known Member

    I actually like AMN. He has the workrate and skillset, plus he's creative enough.
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