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Mikel Arteta: Serial Non-Negotiator

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Dec 20, 2019.

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What should the minimum target for this season?

  1. Top 4 Finish

  2. Europa League Win

  3. A Realistic Top 4 Challenge

  4. A Domestic Trophy

  5. Getting the Team/Attack Clicking Irrespective of League Finish or Trophies

  6. Give Him Until The End of The Season Regardless

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  1. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    This is not the Popular Opinion Thread, no.
     
  2. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    For the fact alone that he has made our current defence pretty stable, he should be in the running for manager of the year ;)
     
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  3. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    Though I don't expect top four, @Rex Banter does raise the good point of needing to be back there ASAP.

    Our luck is that Levy lost A LOT of money with Mou and Eiriksen, Toby and Vertongen running their contracts down, added by the fact that United will still be a mess and that Leicester is going to be raided for more talent this summer.

    Which leads to the conumdrum, do we sell Auba to fund a revamp or do we bank on him and Arteta having a good season next year to carry us further up the table?

    I don't mind selling Lacazette, but I don't think that we're getting a goal scorer anywhere near the same or tier below PEA, a fact that is made much worse by our lack of goals from other players and areas of the pitch.
     
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  4. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    If you look at all the top clubs in the world atm...City, Liverpool, Barca, Real, Juve, Bayern, PSG...Auba wouldn't start at any of them, would have been a good mid season addition though.

    Given his age, 31 next year, there must be a chance to convince him to sign a new deal here...a big club, in London, very good wage...surely if we say "you're our captain, you're our striker (start playing him there consistently again)" ...we must have a chance in convincing him to stay.

    Plus, Pepe-Auba-Gabby, would be a great front three for a few years (need to sort out what's behind it though) then Gabby can takeover from Pierre in the future, as our main striker.

    Really like Laca, but think his time at the club is naturally coming to an end...could still get decent money for Laca too, despite what some think, Alex is still a good player.
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2020
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  5. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    I'd just take Laca's wages and throw them at Aubameyang. It's a better short term investment than any signing we could make.
     
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  6. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Not reliable but hopefully true, Daily Mail saying Arteta is looking to move on Auba, Laca and Özil. Revamp the team.

    Much needed i think. Laca and Auba are absolutely woeful footballers.
     
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  7. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    Who are some players you would like to see come in? At LW and up front.
     
  8. GoodEbening

    GoodEbening To Everyone Except Arteta

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    If Arteta says they are ****e then they are ****e ey? Auba is our top scorer, third top scorer in the league, was 2nd before your boy Arteta turned him to ****e. Özil and Laca were playing well before Arteta came and decided to play keep-ball in our own half to pad the possession stats. And who are we gonna replace them with? Who the **** is gonna join us given our current circumstance?
     
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  9. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    There are always good players to buy if you know where to look or scout well, just look at Wolves and Leicester.
     
  10. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    @GoodEbening why you always so angry for? Just because we didn’t employ that bum in your avatar?
     
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  11. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted

    Yeah definitely, even if top 4 is gone we need to see improvements in results from now. Enthusiasm and stuff is fine for a while, but unless it's backed up by tangible results it won't last. How is Arteta going to manage to convince players to run more and work harder if it doesn't lead to better results? You need to show something, big wins in big games, deep runs in cup competition, or consistently beating the smaller teams.
     
  12. irishgunnerz

    irishgunnerz Moderator Moderator

    Harsh on Auba. Might not be an all round genius but he's far from woeful - replacing his goals will be tough. There's a reason Barca are after him
     
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  13. avalonhse

    avalonhse Well-Known Member

    What you said is theoretically true. Teams like Wolves and Leicester can hit the jackpot once or twice, then reverting to their right position gradually. Many of their buying is a miss too, but they are average teams, so it's okay.

    Still remember that you said Lukaku would score weekly when he came to MU. A massive flop.
     
  14. <<reed>>

    <<reed>> Meme Merchant

    Glad we don't have a Drawteta masterclass to ruin this weekend.
     
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  15. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Massive flop? He scored 28 goals in 66 games, that’s a good record. Lacazette for example has 32 in 85 in comparison.

    Utd are a mess, every player is struggling up there in recent years, think Lukaku was harshly treated, they sighed Igalho ffs.

    Lukaku has been brilliant for Inter. His goal scoring record throughout his career is excellent, even at Utd. Did look unfit at Utd though.
     
  16. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    Thats not true. A lot of the main strikers are similar age if not older.

    City/PSG/Juve he’s not getting into but the rest he could give them a run for their money for sure.

    Pool as well but even then, Firminho was inherited not signed by Klopp. Whilst Klopp has turned him into a pressing playmaking CF, Auba is also a former Klopp player who is currently playing left wing for us. I’m sure Klopp can get a lot out of Auba just like a lot of his average players who look different class. We will never know and I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you say - Auba is up there.

    I agree with the rest though Auba should get a new contract we shouldn’t let Theo or Özil scare us.
     
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  17. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    I wonder if Arteta rates him enough for him to get such a big deal. You only give him a massive deal if Arteta wants to build his new team around Auba.
     
  18. El Duderino

    El Duderino 99 Problems But A Mitch Ain't One Trusted

    I think we're seeing a VERY result-oriented approach so far with Mikel.

    We've been leaking less shots and look a bit more solid at the back, that was job n.1.

    Midfield needs a hard look and he knows it and I also think he knows there ain't much he can do there with the group of players we have.

    He plays Özil despite poor form because, unlike Emery, he's well aware that we've got zero creative players with his level of technique in the final third.

    He shunts Auba on the wing because he knows that he needs both his goalscorers on the pitch, despite both being subpar in their build up play and with one of them in Giroud-esque form, because he's hoping they pull one out of the hat.

    Despite us fans (myself included) wanting to see more Nketiah and Martinelli, only the former has played himself into contention and, as with all young players - he'll have a dip in form and must be managed carefully.

    I think that even if both our strikers contratual situation weren't forcing his hand, this team would a lot different next season.

    The smart move perhaps, is to sell Lacazette and offer Auba a fat extension with the promise of letting him leave in January if the ship isn't steady by then.
     
  19. Aussie_gunner123

    Aussie_gunner123 Well-Known Member

    Lacazette can go for all I care, we should try our best to keep Auba for as long as possible unfil either Martinelli can take over permanently or we find a new top striker.
     
  20. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan Trusted

    @GoodEbening is one of those posters you hate but would never put on ignore because of the waffle he comes out with.
     

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