Jack_the_boy
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We’re one point better off than at the same point last season.
We’re making progress. Slow but steady.
We’re making progress. Slow but steady.
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Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?
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Moah
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Didn't we sack the manager that was responsible for getting that amount of points at the same point last season?
Iceman10
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It’s just an internet forum, mate. Was obvious around the Burnley, Southampton games in December that Mikel wasn’t getting the sack by the board unless relegation became a real threat. That’s the owners and the board, not us, and with Covid fan power is even smaller.
Relax, he’s unlikely to go anywhere by summer, get used to it, he and Edu seem to have managed expectations with the board that I don’t even think he has much to worry about this summer, earliest for accountability with the board/owners probably will be around Nov of next season.
Moah
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Trophies aside, how was Emery taking us backwards while Arteta pushes us forwards while having a worse games to points ratio, scoring less and playing ****e football?
The role of the coach is overrated in football. Sure a coach should try to instil a style of play that's more or less consistent game to game, and get the best out of the players they have, but it's mainly about just keeping the squad happy, keeping the fans happy, and managing injuries etc.
There isn't a coach out there who would get this squad scoring 3 goals a game on a regular basis. So I think Arteta should take the blame for stupid sh*t like playing Tierney in the fa cup and not resting him, and for stuff like banishing a perfectly usable asset like Guendouzi. But I don't particularly blame him for us being so dry up front.
A lot of credit goes to Klopp for Liverpool's success of course, but it's the quality of the players that has achieved it and it's the recruitment department that chooses the players much more than Klopp does. Give Klopp a month on the training ground with our squad and sure it might be better, but it's still not going places.
We lack quality players in the final 3rd who can make the difference, it's something we basically always had under Wenger. Sure Wenger was unusually good at coaching attacking patterns, better than Arteta, but he also had better attackers for the most part.
Lacazette is finished, Willian and Pepe contribute literally nothing. I'm all for youth but we're mugs if we expect our young prospects to effect games on a regular basis.
The recruitment department needs to identify a quality CF and a quality no. 10, and the board needs to back them with funds in the summer, otherwise our mediocre attack will continue and we'll stay midtable next season too.
There isn't a coach out there who would get this squad scoring 3 goals a game on a regular basis. So I think Arteta should take the blame for stupid sh*t like playing Tierney in the fa cup and not resting him, and for stuff like banishing a perfectly usable asset like Guendouzi. But I don't particularly blame him for us being so dry up front.
A lot of credit goes to Klopp for Liverpool's success of course, but it's the quality of the players that has achieved it and it's the recruitment department that chooses the players much more than Klopp does. Give Klopp a month on the training ground with our squad and sure it might be better, but it's still not going places.
We lack quality players in the final 3rd who can make the difference, it's something we basically always had under Wenger. Sure Wenger was unusually good at coaching attacking patterns, better than Arteta, but he also had better attackers for the most part.
Lacazette is finished, Willian and Pepe contribute literally nothing. I'm all for youth but we're mugs if we expect our young prospects to effect games on a regular basis.
The recruitment department needs to identify a quality CF and a quality no. 10, and the board needs to back them with funds in the summer, otherwise our mediocre attack will continue and we'll stay midtable next season too.
Jack_the_boy
Definitely Not Manberg
Because of that poor start after finishing 5th the season before. That’s not progress that’s backwards.
24 points after 18 games is now progress for Arteta because last season we were on 23 points. 1+1 is 2, simple maths.
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HairSprayGooners
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If you think we were playing good football under Emery you're broken. I don't class conceding 30 shots a game to Wolves and Brighton as pushing forwards or going places.
Some people conveniently get how poor previous regimes were, we will not get anywhere sacking another manager.
Moah
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I am not defending Emery, I am just calling Arteta's football ****e.
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We conceded almost 30 shots at Leeds and 20 at home to Villa. PrOgReSs
He could argue that some people say the players are great when we win but the manager is ****e when we lose tbf.
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That's not true, I've pretty much called Arteta crap regardless of what he's done since summer really.
Chelsea didn't play low block against us - plus a couple of wonder goals
Brighton didn't play low block
West Brom tried but they were awful, plus Tierney wonder goal
Palace result was always coming basically, our reliance on individual brilliance remains. At least we didn't lose though, which I'm sure we would have done a month ago, so progress.
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We also were take to extra time by a sh*te Newcastle team without their star player who could’ve won it at the death.
West Brom are arguably even worse than Sheffield United. Saw someone on here saying that Saka could’ve walked out their press and it was spot on.
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If we score quick and early I think we're fine. Our backline has been one of our bright spots this season - we've managed to survive a couple red cards and still keep it respectable.
When we don't nick a quick goal though, the longer we leave it or if we're chasing from behind, it doesn't particularly look good for us.
When we don't nick a quick goal though, the longer we leave it or if we're chasing from behind, it doesn't particularly look good for us.
al-Ustaadh
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This thread doesnt help my health. Arteta isn’t going anywhere and we’re doing fine. Patience.
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Sorry about your health.
I am not fond of Arteta but I am a bit more fond of you, so I'll go easy on my Arteta criticism.
I will start by saying, I genuinely have confidence in our back 5 nowadays. I'd like to think Arteta and his staff have something to do with that.
What has that got to do with my post? I'm saying you can look at what he says two ways and that is certainly occuring two ways. Im not talking about you specifically.
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Was just getting my shots in there man, trust the process.
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I suppose if we are honest the truth probably "lies close to the middle" in that the players aren't quite good enough or perhaps consistent enough but the manager hasn't been good enough either.
The question is if you personally see enough to make you think Arteta warrants the time. Personally it's a no but if you do that's fair enough.
What's without a shadow of a doubt is that he will be given the season so let's see what happens I guess.
The question is if you personally see enough to make you think Arteta warrants the time. Personally it's a no but if you do that's fair enough.
What's without a shadow of a doubt is that he will be given the season so let's see what happens I guess.
Legend14
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Do you think AMN is a good backup LB? How did he effect the game? What about Bellerin, again? Do you think ESR will play the 10 every game at the highest level or is it too much pressure? Do we have a good backup keeper or are we an injury away from total disaster?
Think it through a little more.
Yes our attack strategy wasn’t good, but we need to bring in players so our intent doesn’t change drastically when someone is injured.
