Mikel Arteta: Top Drawer

[Entropics]

With the 2 free kicks and the Saka injury this season I'm fairly sure Mikel got himself another 4 free hits.

It's a matter of how much the spent $$ figure looks when we start talking about gap decades instead of gap years.

 

[Oxeki]

I've eventually come to the conclusion. We're not winning any majors with him. It is what is though. Let's be real, there will always be an excuse. Refs, injuries, teams employing low blocks against us, not backed enough (even though he's almost close to the billion dollar mark) etc

Eventually, the likes of chelsea will win a CL when we're in phase 557728254 of the MCU. Maybe that's when it will hit home for some.

We're 800m into a this project and we already need a rebuild lol.

 

[Sapient Hawk]

I've eventually come to the conclusion. We're not winning any majors with him. It is what is though. Let's be real, there will always be an excuse. Refs, injuries, teams employing low blocks against us, not backed enough (even though he's almost close to the billion dollar mark) etc

Eventually, the likes of chelsea will win a CL when we're still in phase 557728254 of the MCU. Maybe that's when it will hit home for some.

We're 800m into a this project and we already need a rebuild lol.

Don't forget weirdly-constructed balls like the one that brought about our downfall in the Carabao Cup.

This tw*t doesn't half-talk some ****

 

[GDeep™]

These outers are in a rare win win scenario though. If we have a good transfer window and finally win one of the big 2 next season, they'll just say it's due to the money and time spent and anyone could have done it yada yada and just totally discredit arteta

Nobody would ever say that about an Arsenal manager winning a title after 25 years. We aren’t City or Chelsea, winning leagues with random managers who have been here for 2 minutes.

You’re creating these scenarios in your head mate.

 

[GDeep™]

I've eventually come to the conclusion. We're not winning any majors with him. It is what is though. Let's be real, there will always be an excuse. Refs, injuries, teams employing low blocks against us, not backed enough (even though he's almost close to the billion dollar mark) etc

Eventually, the likes of chelsea will win a CL when we're still in phase 557728254 of the MCU. Maybe that's when it will hit home for some.

We're 800m into a this project and we already need a rebuild lol.

Yeah, after this season it’s clear, Mick isn’t it. Had enough time and now needs to go into phase 6 and build another squad.

 

[OnlyOneTrophy]

Rebuild is laughable, we’re not finishing 6th anymore.

 

[OnlyOneTrophy]

Mikel achieved his target the minute he got the club back into the CL, we should be greatful. If he achieves anymore that’s a bonus.

 

[El Realista]

Next weekend, GW37 gets even more interesting if we drop points at Anfield.

City Vs Bournemouth (tough one for City, but think they'll win as they're in good form, 70 points for them going into the final weekend)
West ham Vs Forest (Forest are crap at the moment but they should win. Can see them being on 67 points going into the final weekend)
Chelsea Vs United (Weird game, you'd expect Chelsea to win but United have hit alright form)
Arsenal Vs Newcastle (They will come to win, they've done it so many times this season as well. We simply have to avoid defeat)

Depending on this weekends result Vs Chelsea, a win for us could mean Newcastle drop out the top 5. Realistically they could be on 64 points going into the final weekend.

My pessimistic opinion on the table going into that final weekend -

Liverpool (C)
City - 70 points (WW)
Arsenal - 68 points (LD)
Forest - 67 points (WW)
Chelsea - 67 points (DW)
Newcastle - 65 points (DD)

A win changes everything for a lot of teams. It's a bit sketchy for us if we lose both and go into Southampton away needing to win ngl...

It's funny how slowly you ended saying exactly what I said about it is completely posible we lose next two games and define the UCL ticket in the last week. As always time will tell but I am called the Realista for a reason.

 

[viktor]

I get your point but that was on him. Had he progressed the year after he'd be still coach and could have showed his peak perhaps. But, he didn't. He dropped to 11th and lost the dressing room etc etc.

our trophy cabinet still stuck 1 fa cup (5 years ago won fa cup)

never reach final in any cup competition in last 5 season

stuck finished 2nd this season and last 2 season

you focus to arteta CV but forget focus to main target that is arsenal football club,

 

[viktor]

Mikel achieved his target the minute he got the club back into the CL, we should be greatful. If he achieves anymore that’s a bonus.

this football club suit for your mentality

 

[Riou]

I feel when you have a good team and go through a season without a trophy (like we did in 22/23) you should look at it like "We need to do everything we can to make sure that doesn't happen again!" ...but I feel Arteta and the board mostly felt like we were progressing and it would naturally come as we got better each season.

But I think there are too many variables to think like that, life/sport doesn't always go in a straight line.

The worst part in some ways is I feel his base level is still quite high, can't see us ever slipping badly that will see him needing to be sacked...he will always keep us in the Champions League which is everything to our board...but I have no faith this will ever lead to trophies, as the pressure looks too big for him to handle in those moments.

Least Wenger (when the main debt wore off) and Graham when they both were past their best were still good cup winning managers, could at least have some hope in the "lesser" tournaments while Mikel on money spent and overall performances in the FA/Carabao/Europa might be one of our worst ever knockout tournament manages ffs!

It's just gonna be a constant cycle of finishing Top Four, but while spending a crap ton of money which is way worse and ultimately never winning...this could get really monotonous and it genuinely could last an annoying amount of time lol

 

[Xln]

our trophy cabinet still stuck 1 fa cup (5 years ago won fa cup)

never reach final in any cup competition in last 5 season

stuck finished 2nd this season and last 2 season

you focus to arteta CV but forget focus to main target that is arsenal football club,

Yet you left out he was fighting for the title and we were close

 

[viktor]

Yet you left out he was fighting for the title and we were close

when talk about progression or consistent in football there is 2 factor

1. progression in term of league position (5 season arteta at arsenal we only make progression in term of league position from 21/22 to 22/23 that is 2 season but after that we still stuck finished 2nd for 3 season in row)

2. progression in term of trophy (5 season arteta at arsenal we did not make progression at all still stuck with 1 fa cup 5 years ago, he did not deliver one single trophy

 

[Alexs]

Least Wenger (when the main debt wore off) and Graham when they both were past their best were still good cup winning managers, could at least have some hope in the "lesser" tournaments while Mikel on money spent and overall performances in the FA/Carabao/Europa might be one of our worst ever knockout tournament manages ffs!

I'm old enough to think the FA Cup is a worthwhile trophy. Arteta lucked one in his first season and has since been dire. I guess he's arrogant/deluded/stupid enough to think he'll win EPL/CL but it doesn't look likely from where I'm sitting. So win something FFS!

 

[viktor]

Least Wenger (when the main debt wore off) and Graham when they both were past their best were still good cup winning managers, could at least have some hope in the "lesser" tournaments while Mikel on money spent and overall performances in the FA/Carabao/Europa might be one of our worst ever knockout tournament manages ffs!

It's just gonna be a constant cycle of finishing Top Four, but while spending a crap ton of money which is way worse and ultimately never winning...this could get really monotonous and it genuinely could last an annoying amount of time lol

that is the point, with arteta who spent more money than wenger then he should cross over the line win major trophy during 5.5 season at arsenal but he did not until now,

people make comparison between arsenal under arteta who less spent money than chelsea & manutd in last 5.5 season but that is wrong comparison

the real comparison in term of spent money should be wenger vs arteta when the fact
1. wenger last 5 season finished 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th, 6th + 3 fa cup with total spent only 450m pounds
2. arteta first 5.5 season finished 8th, 5th, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd + only 1 fa cup with total spent 750m pounds++ ,

so with all money that arteta spent in first 5.5 season at arsenal should deliver 1 major trophy (atleast) not good enough when only compete title race finished 2nd

 

[viktor]

I'm old enough to think the FA Cup is a worthwhile trophy. Arteta lucked one in his first season and has since been dire. I guess he's arrogant/deluded/stupid enough to think he'll win EPL/CL but it doesn't look likely from where I'm sitting. So win something FFS!

 

[HagnSprayGooners]

It's funny how slowly you ended saying exactly what I said about it is completely posible we lose next two games and define the UCL ticket in the last week. As always time will tell but I am called the Realista for a reason.

What you say doesn't come from a please of realism, it's pessimistic rubbish based off of complete doomsday scenarios.

If we lose all 3 games and every single other result goes against us is your opinion, I don't share that because that's incredibly silly, as seen today with City dropping more points.

 

[El Realista]

What you say doesn't come from a please of realism, it's pessimistic rubbish based off of complete doomsday scenarios.

If we lose all 3 games and every single other result goes against us is your opinion, I don't share that because that's incredibly silly, as seen today with City dropping more points.

It's like you don't learn this team is specialist in bottling. Btw I didn't say it would happen Mr slow, I just said it is possible and that you can't deny it because it is a fact.

 

[Trilly]

Mikel achieved his target the minute he got the club back into the CL, we should be greatful. If he achieves anymore that’s a bonus.

Why do you do this?

Outside of me (and only on this occasion) nobody else bites? You’re just ruining your post to like ratio man

 

[El Realista]

Mikel achieved his target the minute he got the club back into the CL, we should be greatful. If he achieves anymore that’s a bonus.

And for that it is time to say goodbye and bring a new manager above his level .