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I’ve seen nothing to suggest 7th or lower would get Arteta the sack. Unless it led to revolts on match days and the board were forced to act.
I’ve seen nothing to suggest 7th or lower would get Arteta the sack. Unless it led to revolts on match days and the board were forced to act.
If Edu had said "finishing like we did last season is unacceptable" then that would be a suggestion.But what kind of suggestions would you ever see?
We ain’t getting top 4 playing that way no matter how much luck we have. Eventually the underlying trends catch up with you. Relying on retreating into a mid/low block and scoring from the one or two chances we create a game isn’t sustainable over a season.For me, if we got top 4 this season I wouldn't complain about Arteta if we played the same kind of workmanlike / bit lucky football we've seen over most of his spell. I think getting back in the CL and the revenue that brings trump's anything performance related.
He'd get a free pass for me on everything performance wise in the unlikely event he gets top 4 and I'd strongly back him going into next season.
5-6th and playing more consistently to the level we did against Villa / Sp**s against sides we should beat and similar quality sides to us and I'd be fairly content and would mildly back him going into his 3rd season. A general improvement in play against the 3-4 better teams in the league is all I ask even if the results aren't there this season.
5-6th but carrying on in a similar vein performance wise as we've seen.
This would be the problematic outcome for me and one I feel may be the most likely.
Very 50/50 if he should carry on.
7th or below would be intolerable to me irrespective of performance improvement or bad luck or whatever. I can't think of a situation where finishing in such a position wouldn't warrant Mikel being sacked. 2.5 years to still be pretty much where we were when he took over would be intolerable.
If Edu had said "finishing like we did last season is unacceptable" then that would be a suggestion.
Instead he said it doesn't matter if we finish 10th I care about the future, or something along those lines.
There's no number on what an unacceptable season looks like, this season for me is more about getting our 1st team as many games together as possible. How can Arteta realistically fail?
This is where I am at as wellFor me, if we got top 4 this season I wouldn't complain about Arteta if we played the same kind of workmanlike / bit lucky football we've seen over most of his spell. I think getting back in the CL and the revenue that brings trump's anything performance related.
He'd get a free pass for me on everything performance wise in the unlikely event he gets top 4 and I'd strongly back him going into next season.
5-6th and playing more consistently to the level we did against Villa / Sp**s against sides we should beat and similar quality sides to us and I'd be fairly content and would mildly back him going into his 3rd season. A general improvement in play against the 3-4 better teams in the league is all I ask even if the results aren't there this season.
5-6th but carrying on in a similar vein performance wise as we've seen.
This would be the problematic outcome for me and one I feel may be the most likely.
Very 50/50 if he should carry on.
7th or below would be intolerable to me irrespective of performance improvement or bad luck or whatever. I can't think of a situation where finishing in such a position wouldn't warrant Mikel being sacked. 2.5 years to still be pretty much where we were when he took over would be intolerable.
For me, if we got top 4 this season I wouldn't complain about Arteta if we played the same kind of workmanlike / bit lucky football we've seen over most of his spell. I think getting back in the CL and the revenue that brings trump's anything performance related.
He'd get a free pass for me on everything performance wise in the unlikely event he gets top 4 and I'd strongly back him going into next season.
5-6th and playing more consistently to the level we did against Villa / Sp**s against sides we should beat and similar quality sides to us and I'd be fairly content and would mildly back him going into his 3rd season. A general improvement in play against the 3-4 better teams in the league is all I ask even if the results aren't there this season.
5-6th but carrying on in a similar vein performance wise as we've seen.
This would be the problematic outcome for me and one I feel may be the most likely.
Very 50/50 if he should carry on.
7th or below would be intolerable to me irrespective of performance improvement or bad luck or whatever. I can't think of a situation where finishing in such a position wouldn't warrant Mikel being sacked. 2.5 years to still be pretty much where we were when he took over would be intolerable.
The issue for me is I can easily see us finishing 6th with bipolar football and nothing really being resolved.
We’re stuck in the Ole cycle now where we’re just good enough to keep his job but nowhere near contending where we want to be.
We’ve got a midtable xG number with a bottom 5 xG against. I think we’ve really got a ceiling on on where we’ll finish and how consistently we’ll get results.
That would be the worst possible scenario and I feel probably the most likely to happen.
I'd veer towards wanting him sacked in that scenario.
At what point do the majority of us accept the process is working?
Was looking at the manager wish list and I did wonder. Guy hasn't lost in a minute, his line ups are (imo) spot on. His summer signings are doing what they are supposed to do.
What's it gonna take?
I wouldn't say Emery's run was deceiving as it was not based on luck. His attack was one dimensional but effective for a period of time. As with all one dimensional attacks, other teams eventually figured out that if you cut the attack through left wing to Auba, the team doesn't know how to score goals. And it was a nightmare after that.Which unbeaten run is more deceiving, this one or the Emery one?
Genuinely hard to believe either of them have unbeaten runs in the first place. Like HOW??Which unbeaten run is more deceiving, this one or the Emery one?
This one.Which unbeaten run is more deceiving, this one or the Emery one?
Well.. that xG stat is highly skewed by the first few games. If we look at it after the first 3 games( When we were disastrously poor), we have the second best xG Against. I wouldn`t read much into it as of now(Though I am a big supporter of xG stats).View attachment 4882
This is slightly worrying
Also an xG against in the bottom 5 and worse than Burnley is a major
Yeah. Emery went on a long unbeaten run (including a 9 league winning streak) but but till this day A-M is still crying about it and calling it unconvincing. But Arteta's 7 game unbeaten run while playing some soul crushing football is being lauded by A-M.Hold on, THIS is the amazing unbeaten run everyone is going on about? I thought we were on about Arteta's first few months in charge.
It's been like what? 7 games? Is this where the standards are at? I swear Emery's was 22 games.