Mikel Arteta: Winner 🤴

[outlawz]

The problem is that Arteta’s only a fail when it comes to his ceiling. His floor is what most boards would consider a good season on the balance sheet and that’s all that matters.

Guarantee me a floor of top four and I’d happily sack Arteta tbh.

It's exactly that - as I say time and time again, we are one position away from winning the title, but there's 91 positions below us so a fall can be far further. There's more likelihood of us going down the table - then it is to land someone who takes us from second to first.

 

[Notorious Big]

Liverpool fans are likely to get Arne sacked at the end of the season despite him being on course to make top 5 this season and thats with a title, last season. Thats where we come in. Pressure has to be aoplied so owners dont keep the same guy in just cause hes getting CL football, while trophies arent being won.

Think they will sack him because their football is pretty average and they spent a lot of money, also there is big doubt that Slot is proper manager and that he can turn things around next season, so they can give him another try.

Remember that Klopp also had couple off seasons with Liverpool after they won EPL, but he built something there, no point of sacking him after one bad season, reckon that our board thinks similar with Arteta now.

 

[Trilly]

As of now more fans are in than out. But if he bottles the league I bet that will change. Arteta would survived this season trophyless if we played good football. But he really painted himself into a corner with the style he has adopted. Our fans for months now have been battered by opposition fans and media about the style they just had enough. We have sacrificed everything enjoyable about football trophy this season. If it leads to nothing then it was all for nothing

The one and only silver lining of this potentially awful collapse will be the end of the gaslighting and mockery of anyone who has the audacity to not rate Arteta.

It’s been a strange experience as an Arsenal fan seeing the cult of personality towards Arteta over these last few years. I think going forwards things will be a lot more normal in terms of how the fans perceive/judge him and that should finally start trickling to the board.

 

[Axel9090]

Even though other managers might have done better with the resources, Arteta got time because 1. He was a former Arsenal captain so there was that connection and 2. Because in his third full season we became title contenders, then the following season we were contending again. Fans grew attached because it was great football at the time, we were scoring 90 goals in those seasons and we wanted to see the fruits of the labor under Arteta. 24/25 was a shambles for a variery of reasons, including injuries. Now we come to this season where its make or break.

Tbh, when you look at the attackin side of things, its massive regression compared to the other seasons where he got 90 goals with this team.

if a new manager comes in next season, theyll have a quality set of players and I doubt theyll get anywhere near 6 seasons to win something, probably 3 seasons at best.

 

[Rasmi]

The one and only silver lining of this potentially awful collapse will be the end of the gaslighting and mockery of anyone who has the audacity to not rate Arteta.

It’s been a strange experience as an Arsenal fan seeing the cult of personality towards Arteta over these last few years. I think going forwards things will be a lot more normal in terms of how the fans perceive/judge him and that should finally start trickling to the board.

I think even though it was extreme. Our fan base at heart are romantic and gets attached. Most look down at managers getting sacked constantly. If it was up to me you get one season and if there’s no significant improvement you sack next guy. There’s nothing in football that says club that sack manager less are more successful

 

[jones]

That's really it tbh. Maintaining top 4/5 in today's PL is brutal but the financial incentives to do so will make any executive salivate at those types of managers.

Personally my biggest problems with Arteta are not the results but rather the style of play. You can stomach the sufferball if it showers you with silverware, just like you'll grant more patience to a guy playing exciting football while coming up short. However, this means **** all to the people running the show, unless it turns into actual toxicity and the manager loses the players, but then the results will suffer too anyway.

Look at your rivals for top 5. They've spent similar money but have fluctuated wildly, I mean **** one is facing relegation.

I hate the football, hate how cringe he is and hate how he values footballing ability over basic human decency, but you simply cannot deny that he is very good at achieving results that will make any board wet themselves with glee.

He needed three years at Arsenal FC to get CL football. No club salivates at the thought of allowing a guy to dismantle a squad and spend insane fees to rebuild it in his image while getting no results in the process, if they did at least one other club other than Arsenal would have done it at some point.

We've seen Conte come in at Chelsea and take them from mid table to the title in his first season. Slot the fat mess did the same by just staying out the way of Salah for long enough in his first year in England. Even Guardiola the guy everyone here loves to call the quintessential chequebook manager needed just two seasons to break the points record and win a double.

Arteta achieves "results" with means that no comparable manager could ever dream of. Anyone spending that much and having that much control has a glittering CV with regular big trophies while we're the best part of a decade in still wondering if he can do it even once ffs.

 

[Trilly]

I think even though it was extreme. Our fan base at heart are romantic and gets attached. Most look down at managers getting sacked constantly. If it was up to me you get one season and if there’s no significant improvement you sack next guy. There’s nothing in football that says club that sack manager less are more successful

Yeah our fanbase being more romantic and attached to managers is one of the reasons why. The fact he was ex Arsenal and had excellent PR is another. There’s also the PTSD that our fanbase had around attractive football but horrible results that allowed him to get away with the win at all costs approach for a long time.

These are just a few of things that have contributed to the perfect storm that’s given him this much time. It feels like this is the first season where Arteta’s being judged like a manager normally would at a top club.

Next season will be the first where there are more fans against than for him, it will be interesting to see what that pressure does to him re: style of play and recruitment.

 

[ThisFather]

He's played good attacking football in the first season we came 2nd. I don't understand how he has decided to go in the other direction since then.

 

[El Duderino]

He's played good attacking football in the first season we came 2nd. I don't understand how he has decided to go in the other direction since then.

It he were a player we would call it a purple patch.

Honestly think that if he convinced Xhaka to stay l, the knock on effect would see us not signing Havertz (or God forbid, his first choice in Mount), and we would have continued to see some of that football.

Would've probably meant Rice was not played at left 8 and we could've focused on a different profile in a forward position now that Granit didn't need replacing.

Likely that Martinellis form could be better than it's been, too, since Xhaka was part of what made him tick (along with Jesus).

Strange, because I absolutely hated Xhaka at Arsenal prior to that season, but not having a guy with his intelligence further up and not at dlp is something we've missed since.

 

[Batman]

Hungary got rid of Orban. We can absolutely get rid of Arteta.

 

[Rasmi]

You know what’s so frustrating with the press. No one asks him probing questions. Something like 3 of the last 4 games you started Havertz in midfield and you lost. Why do you keep insisting on it? Have a feeling he will start him at City as well

 

[KarlAFC]

Yeah our fanbase being more romantic and attached to managers is one of the reasons why. The fact he was ex Arsenal and had excellent PR is another. There’s also the PTSD that our fanbase had around attractive football but horrible results that allowed him to get away with the win at all costs approach for a long time.

These are just a few of things that have contributed to the perfect storm that’s given him this much time. It feels like this is the first season where Arteta’s being judged like a manager normally would at a top club.

Next season will be the first where there are more fans against than for him, it will be interesting to see what that pressure does to him re: style of play and recruitment.

It feels apparent to me that at least 75% if not 80% of the fan base has turned on him already. That number will likely diminish if he delivers one of the two major trophies, but he's never skated on thinner ice before.

 

[El Duderino]

Hungary got rid of Orban. We can absolutely get rid of Arteta.

JD Vance with the @Rasmi reverse Midas touch.

 

[Batman]

You know what’s so frustrating with the press. No one asks him probing questions. Something like 3 of the last 4 games you started Havertz in midfield and you lost. Why do you keep insisting on it? Have a feeling he will start him at City as well

He's not going to give an actual introspective answer no matter what is asked. He said "bottler isn't in his vocabulary" and then lost 3 of 4 domestic matches with number 5 coming up.

 

[Dokaka]

He needed three years at Arsenal FC to get CL football. No club salivates at the thought of allowing a guy to dismantle a squad and spend insane fees to rebuild it in his image while getting no results in the process, if they did at least one other club other than Arsenal would have done it at some point.

We've seen Conte come in at Chelsea and take them from mid table to the title in his first season. Slot the fat mess did the same by just staying out the way of Salah for long enough in his first year in England. Even Guardiola the guy everyone here loves to call the quintessential chequebook manager needed just two seasons to break the points record and win a double.

Arteta achieves "results" with means that no comparable manager could ever dream of. Anyone spending that much and having that much control has a glittering CV with regular big trophies while we're the best part of a decade in still wondering if he can do it even once ffs.

You're speaking on a footballing level. I don't even disagree with any of this. I'm purely talking about the bean counters behind the scenes.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7081216/2026/03/10/bookkeeper-arsenal-finances-kse-wages/

I'm not arguing he isn't replaceable on a footballing level - I ****ing hope he gets sacked ASAP - but rather that the floor for results in the last 3-4 years has been so high that most decision makers will have a hard time arguing against him staying unless there's some internal revolt against him.

 

[2Smokeyy]

It feels apparent to me that at least 75% if not 80% of the fan base has turned on him already. That number will likely diminish if he delivers one of the two major trophies, but he's never skated on thinner ice before.

Tbf I think it’s easy to win them over the whole 91 goals debacle opened my eyes up as that was the cop out some were using to sweep things under the carpet. It was as fugazi as Jonathan David’s numbers, guy went 135 days without scoring in the Serie A:



The above will be my go to for anything fugazi from now on

 

[Rasputin]

we didn't create one clear chance against Bournemouth. when the whips are cracking Arteta's coaching is exposed

 

[High Elbow]

we didn't create one clear chance against Bournemouth. when the whips are cracking Arteta's coaching is exposed

Dont think we even created a half chance. Worst part is the ref gave us a lifeline but the team still didn't respond. Why should we believe in a team that doesn't seem to believe in themselves? If not for a last minute havertz goal we would be 4 games without a win in a crucial period in the season. It was bournemouth at our own ground ffs not prime barca. It feels like we didn't even try

 

[Rasputin]

Players and coach

 

[El Realista]

When you see this map you know his system falling apart.