Mikel Arteta: Winner 🤴

[grange]

Pretty funny imagining this

He's fortunate Nørgaard didn't ball tap him

 

[DanDare]

Genuinely can’t believe how people are in here still being negative and refusing to give him credit like we’re literally in a Champions League final.

It's like an obsessive compulsion.

Fantastic performance by Mikel last night. Got everything right. And we are in a CL final and maybe winning the league!

 

[dashsnow17]

The same top he's been using.

He strikes me as the superstitious type.

I’ve been thinking about this. How many pairs of black tops, grey trousers and black shoes do you reckon he owns? Cos it’s his uniform, never changes.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

I’ve been thinking about this. How many pairs of black tops, grey trousers and black shoes do you reckon he owns? Cos it’s his uniform, never changes.

It's actually remarkable the variety of different shirts and pants he has within that one singular aesthetic.

 

[omurphysjaw]

Boss

 

[Trilly]

Pretty funny imagining this

I don’t believe this

Reads like some cheesy anime episode where the power of friendship overcomes all

 

[Makingtrax]

Pretty funny imagining this

Arse licking post at its finest!

 

[Trilly]

I’d say the fact that they are being run terribly and we aren’t is testament to how well the manager is doing? Arteta is IMO one of the few managers in the world who could have fixed Utd he would have got buy in from the board and kicked out all the bad apples from the team and done the rebuild exactly like what he did here. I think the ability to convince the board and the players to buy into the process and hold through downswings and poor runs of form with a heavy dose of haram ball thrown in is in itself a massive ability for a manager to have.

Results wise we haven’t won anything (yet) but since 22/23 we are neck and neck with City for points. That means after every failed season and the disappointment that comes with it Arteta has managed to get his team up off the canvas and back into the fight for another title race. That surely requires a level of managerial excellence to pull off.

My point is nobody’s judging him off the rebuild anymore. It’s consensus that he did that part well. I’ve acknowledged that consistently during this debate (which I’m getting tired of) but it keeps getting ignored because they just assume agenda and don’t read the actual words.

The club’s targets for the last 3 seasons including this one have shifted from rebuilding to competing, so any analysis should really be against other teams competing otherwise you’re just giving yourself a pat on the back for objectives you completed like 3 years ago.

I doubt Barca fans compare themselves to anybody domestically but Real, as for PSG and Bayern fans I’m sure they only compare themselves to the European elite and I’m sure everyone from the players, Arteta himself, the coaching staff and executives at Arsenal are comparing themselves to the best of the best because that’s where they want to be.

I guarantee you nobody at Arsenal gives a **** about being better than Chelsea, Sp**s or United right now.

 

[Taylor Gang Gunners]

Uncle Mikel. You’re close to immortality. Please, get us there.

 

[Trilly]

Genuinely can’t believe how people are in here still being negative and refusing to give him credit like we’re literally in a Champions League final.

Where?

I’ve gone through every post in this thread since we made this final and surprise surprise there hasn’t been one negative post about Mikel, if anything the people who have been critical in past weeks have come out and given him his credit. You are literally making things up now for engagement and everyone who liked your post needs to engage in some critical thinking because it’s giving sheep

You are part of the problem while thinking you’re on some righteous crusade ‍

 

[Makingtrax]

Genuinely can’t believe how people are in here still being negative and refusing to give him credit like we’re literally in a Champions League final.

It was good seeing him have faith in the whole squad with all those changes. The more players get a say in the results, the healthier the dressing room. Wouldn’t have done that a couple of years ago. He’s learnt a lot.

 

[Makingtrax]

Where?

Haven’t seen any negativity for a while. If these ridiculous posts about ‘he’s done all this on a shoe string’, or exaggerate claims about the mess and toxicity he inherited would stop, we’d be all good.

The fact is 1) we’ve got a superb squad, despite Arteta stans moaning about them everytime we get a draw or loss, 2) we’ve had lots of money poured into the club by the owners 3) the owners have stuck with one manager and he’s very much learnt on the job. He’s still manic but there’s signs the players are living with it and coping better with the nerves.

I still don’t like his defensive style of play, but a lot of 1-0s can progress your standing if you’re not conceding. The point is if we’re finally winning trophies those of us who enjoy attacking football can certainly live with it.

 

[Uncle Macho]

As a vocal critic all I can say is fair play. Elated that we have reached finals and it's still hard to imagine when thinking about 2020.

Feels like a long time, but the jump from back then to CL finals and one hand on the Prem title is such a remarkable jump. All I've ever wanted for the club was to be competitive not necessarily sweep everything, so regardless of the outcome I'm glad Arsenal are finally there.

 

[Tnegs]

My point is nobody’s judging him off the rebuild anymore. It’s consensus that he did that part well. I’ve acknowledged that consistently during this debate (which I’m getting tired of) but it keeps getting ignored because they just assume agenda and don’t read the actual words.

The club’s targets for the last 3 seasons including this one have shifted from rebuilding to competing, so any analysis should really be against other teams competing otherwise you’re just giving yourself a pat on the back for objectives you completed like 3 years ago.

I doubt Barca fans compare themselves to anybody domestically but Real, as for PSG and Bayern fans I’m sure they only compare themselves to the European elite and I’m sure everyone from the players, Arteta himself, the coaching staff and executives at Arsenal are comparing themselves to the best of the best because that’s where they want to be.

I guarantee you nobody at Arsenal gives a **** about being better than Chelsea, Sp**s or United right now.

Like I said we’ve been neck and neck with City for points since 22/23. We’ve finished QF, SF and now reached the final of the CL in the last 3 seasons. We haven’t managed to get it over the line but you can’t say we haven’t been competing.

 

[Trilly]

Haven’t seen any negativity for a while. If these ridiculous posts about ‘he’s done all this on a shoe string’, or exaggerate claims about the mess and toxicity he inherited would stop, we’d be all good.

The fact is 1) we’ve got a superb squad, despite Arteta stans moaning about them everytime we get a draw or loss, 2) we’ve had lots of money poured into the club by the owners 3) the owners have stuck with one manager and he’s very much learnt on the job. He’s still manic but there’s signs the players are living with it and coping better with the nerves.

I still don’t like his defensive style of play, but a lot of 1-0s can progress your standing if you’re not conceding. The point is if we’re finally winning trophies those of us who enjoy attacking football can certainly live with it.

Edited my post since. He basically made it up for engagement

 

[Trilly]

Like I said we’ve been neck and neck with City for points since 22/23. We’ve finished QF, SF and now reached the final of the CL in the last 3 seasons. We haven’t managed to get it over the line but you can’t say we haven’t been competing.

I never said we haven’t.

Wthell is going on? Convinced you guys are just interpreting posts based on who the poster is and not what I'm actually saying

 

[boonthegoon]

My point is nobody’s judging him off the rebuild anymore. It’s consensus that he did that part well. I’ve acknowledged that consistently during this debate (which I’m getting tired of) but it keeps getting ignored because they just assume agenda and don’t read the actual words.

The club’s targets for the last 3 seasons including this one have shifted from rebuilding to competing, so any analysis should really be against other teams competing otherwise you’re just giving yourself a pat on the back for objectives you completed like 3 years ago.

I doubt Barca fans compare themselves to anybody domestically but Real, as for PSG and Bayern fans I’m sure they only compare themselves to the European elite and I’m sure everyone from the players, Arteta himself, the coaching staff and executives at Arsenal are comparing themselves to the best of the best because that’s where they want to be.

I guarantee you nobody at Arsenal gives a **** about being better than Chelsea, Sp**s or United right now.

Barca will compare only with real because they are similar level clubs in that league and no else there is the same. I'm sure if they are a pl team, they'll compare themselves with the same teams. Chelsea were considered title challengers just a few months ago.

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

See this is why a few of us have been saying to wait till the season is over before going crazy about Arteta one way or another.

A couple of weeks ago he could do no right on here, now he's the bee's knees.

2-3 good results change everything and a bad one or two might do it again.

Anyway, let's see what's in our trophy cabinet at the end of the season.

 

[DJ_Markstar]

It points out exactly what the tables show - we have either finished second 4 years in a row, or second three times and a PL while being 4th for spend and wages. That is by definition - over achieving.

That's nonsense - you can't just disregard clubs who outspent us when doing a peer comparison of total spending across the league. That's the kind of omission you expect from a rival fan trying to throw shade. Why the **** would an Arsenal fan do that?!?!?? A proper benchmarking exercise considers all clubs in the league, not pick and choose the ones that would present the club in the best or worst light.

Why don't you do it lol.

You know what's mad? If any of those clubs had spent that money and become regular title challengers they'd be used as an example of why Arteta and Arsenal FC are doing nothing special. Yet, when they're spending that money and not challenging, they're just discounted

Can't make it up.

 

[Trilly]

Chelsea were considered title challengers just a few months ago.