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14Henry

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You just said we need to sign 8 players?

We're not signing that many either. What's the point of Lokonga then? Specially if we're bringing in a starting CM (which we're likely not).
We will still need to sign a lot of players depending on outgoings. Lokonga will also get game time. We may see the likes of Lokonga and Elneny as the starting pair in the EL early games. The same as in CC etc. You need numbers in midfield.

City this season had: Fernandinho/Rodri/Gundogan/Foden/Bernardo Silva/KDB

Lpool. Fabinho/Milner/Henderson/Keita/Jones/Chamberlain/Tiago

Chelsea: Kante/Kovacic/Jorginho/Loftus Cheek/Mount (sometimes plays wider but has been used in a 3 man midfield similar to B Silva).

Even United as ****e as they are had: Fred/Matic/McTominay/Pogba and United fans thought they were low on options.

We can't just go into a season with 4 central midfielders. Partey/Elneny/Lokonga/Xhaka and a top CM gives us numbers and enough quality to hopefully get top 4 next season.
 

El Duderino

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We will still need to sign a lot of players depending on outgoings. Lokonga will also get game time. We may see the likes of Lokonga and Elneny as the starting pair in the EL early games. The same as in CC etc. You need numbers in midfield.

City this season had: Fernandinho/Rodri/Gundogan/Foden/Bernardo Silva/KDB

Lpool. Fabinho/Milner/Henderson/Keita/Jones/Chamberlain/Tiago

Chelsea: Kante/Kovacic/Jorginho/Loftus Cheek/Mount (sometimes plays wider but has been used in a 3 man midfield similar to B Silva).

Even United as ****e as they are had: Fred/Matic/McTominay/Pogba and United fans thought they were low on options.

We can't just go into a season with 4 central midfielders. Partey/Elneny/Lokonga/Xhaka and a top CM gives us numbers and enough quality to hopefully get top 4 next season.

Don't see us signing a CM unless Xhaka leaves, at least not a starting one.
 

14Henry

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Don't see us signing a CM unless Xhaka leaves, at least not a starting one.
Why wouldn't we? We need a top midfielder which means Xhaka drops to the bench or rotates around when Partey is injured or banned or whatever. Elneny/Xhaka/Lokonga play EL and Cup games.

Our problem is our bench is ****. Because we are super reliant on a small number of first team starters.

If we sign well this summer the likes of Xhaka/Tierney or Tomi/ ESR/ possibly Martinelli/Saka are on the bench for us. Not relying on Salah/Tavares/Cedric etc.
 

El Duderino

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Why wouldn't we? We need a top midfielder which means Xhaka drops to the bench or rotates around when Partey is injured or banned or whatever. Elneny/Xhaka/Lokonga play EL and Cup games.

Our problem is our bench is ****. Because we are super reliant on a small number of first team starters.

If we sign well this summer the likes of Xhaka/Tierney or Tomi/ ESR/ possibly Martinelli/Saka are on the bench for us. Not relying on Salah/Tavares/Cedric etc.

Because managers love Xhaka and he's hardly ever injured. Regardless of options, he'll start. Everything so far has pointed to this and personally I feel like fans are in for disapointment if they think Xhaka is the one who'll get the bench if he continues at Arsenal.
 

14Henry

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Because managers love Xhaka and he's hardly ever injured. Regardless of options, he'll start. Everything so far has pointed to this and personally I feel like fans are in for disapointment if they think Xhaka is the one who'll get the bench if he continues at Arsenal.
The way Partey is built he may not see much of the bench. Either way we need a top midfielder. And I think we will sign 1.

I would be shocked if we go into next season with Xhaka/Elneny/Lokonga/Partey.
 

GoonerJay24

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We will still need to sign a lot of players depending on outgoings. Lokonga will also get game time. We may see the likes of Lokonga and Elneny as the starting pair in the EL early games. The same as in CC etc. You need numbers in midfield.

City this season had: Fernandinho/Rodri/Gundogan/Foden/Bernardo Silva/KDB

Lpool. Fabinho/Milner/Henderson/Keita/Jones/Chamberlain/Tiago

Chelsea: Kante/Kovacic/Jorginho/Loftus Cheek/Mount (sometimes plays wider but has been used in a 3 man midfield similar to B Silva).

Even United as ****e as they are had: Fred/Matic/McTominay/Pogba and United fans thought they were low on options.

We can't just go into a season with 4 central midfielders. Partey/Elneny/Lokonga/Xhaka and a top CM gives us numbers and enough quality to hopefully get top 4 next season.

you forget Smith Rowe too could come into that and even Ødegaard
 

NieThePiet

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Can we stop with the theory, that Elneny will be only playing in the EL and Cup games and will be only 5th choice?

We are having Xhaka/Lokonga and Partey/Elneny at the moment. We need an alternative/upgrade for Xhaka this summer, for the more offensive role compared to Partey.

Lokonga isn't fitting into the role from Partey, only Elneny is close to that. At least Arteta hasn't realized, that Xhaka isn't working there too and moved him more forward.

So we all know, that Partey will miss at least 10 games again next season. Someone really thinks, that we are signing a replacement for Xhaka and Partey while giving Elneny a new contract? Doubt this very much.

X/Xhaka - Partey/Elneny (Lokonga loan) So another season, where we have to hope, that Partey won't get an injury.
 

GoonerJay24

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ESR is an impact sub or wide attacker at the minute. Ødegaard is better further forward but he could play if needed.

We play 433 now, Ødegaard is a cm. This is the time to transition ESR to an 8 also.

Start next season with Xhaka and slowly bring ESR into that role in a 433.
 

RunTheTrap

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Joke of a club. To think it’s going to be 2023 and our midfield will still consist of Xhaka and Elneny. Two players that are the main cause of our CL absence for the last 6 years. We deserve everything we get.
We’re doing the same nonsense United have done for years. Extending players who are happy to sit on the bench breeds comfort. Mata, Matic, Bailey, Lingard, Phil Jones have been at the club for years and contribute to nothing, and here we are doing the exact same thing. At this point our failure to seriously fix the midfield is deliberate now. Close to 6 years Xhaka has been a starter and let us down in the crunch moments. We have given this guy Cazorla, Ramsey, Guendouzi, Torreira, Coquelin, Partey, Cellabos and Elneny as his partner and we never saw 4th. I’m praying Xhaka shows some self-respect and goes Italy like he was supposed to 6 years ago.
 
Can we stop with the theory, that Elneny will be only playing in the EL and Cup games and will be only 5th choice?

We are having Xhaka/Lokonga and Partey/Elneny at the moment. We need an alternative/upgrade for Xhaka this summer, for the more offensive role compared to Partey.

Lokonga isn't fitting into the role from Partey, only Elneny is close to that. At least Arteta hasn't realized, that Xhaka isn't working there too and moved him more forward.

So we all know, that Partey will miss at least 10 games again next season. Someone really thinks, that we are signing a replacement for Xhaka and Partey while giving Elneny a new contract? Doubt this very much.

X/Xhaka - Partey/Elneny (Lokonga loan) So another season, where we have to hope, that Partey won't get an injury.
+1

We need a starter to replace Xhaka and starter to compete with Partey since he's never gonna stay healthy for an entire season. Today showed Lokonga is much more comfortable playing 8 instead of 6 when all he did was hide, so we need a better 6 to cover Partey than Elneny. It's a shame Arteta took 3 games (Palace, Brighton, Southampton) to realize Elneny is a better 6 than Lokonga. Don't mind extending Elneny so long as we get 2 more MFs in, because we will need depth to compete in EL anyways.
 

Kwaku

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If Elneny plays meaningful games next season, the ceiling again for the team is Europa League places. Don’t mind him having a role in the squad but it needs to be minimal. Ideally a starting CM is signed relegating Xhaka and Elneny to the bench. Xhaka can play when Partey is out.
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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We play 433 now, Ødegaard is a cm. This is the time to transition ESR to an 8 also.

Start next season with Xhaka and slowly bring ESR into that role in a 433.
Start ESR where you say in the pre season and stick with the plan so we are ready from the start.
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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If Elneny plays meaningful games next season, the ceiling again for the team is Europa League places. Don’t mind him having a role in the squad but it needs to be minimal. Ideally a starting CM is signed relegating Xhaka and Elneny to the bench. Xhaka can play when Partey is out.
That will mean tweaking the system. There's no way Xhaka or anyone else can perform Partey's role without a massive drop in quality
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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If Elneny plays meaningful games next season, the ceiling again for the team is Europa League places. Don’t mind him having a role in the squad but it needs to be minimal. Ideally a starting CM is signed relegating Xhaka and Elneny to the bench. Xhaka can play when Partey is out.
He played less than 40 PL games for Wenger over three seasons. He's a player of last resort. 2020-2021 he played the most games he's ever played and we were dire.
 

MikelHadADream

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If Partey wasn't such an injury prone mess, Arteta's last 20m midfield signing was good enough, or if the club could handle Guendouzi, this would be a non issue. Unfortunately though there is a high chance he will be playing a significant amount of league games this season. The squad management has been criminal.
 

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