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Bloodbather

Established Member

Country: Turkiye
Do we think he has enough about him to play left 8 one day?

Tbh the one thing I worry about him is Arteta seems to prefer 6 footers at DM and LB for set piece threat and duel winning

Timber is an exception but he's damn good, athletic, and has CB experience
He strikes me as an ideal partner for Rice in the future.
 

MutableEarth

Reiss' Dad
He strikes me as an ideal partner for Rice in the future.
If I may be blunt, I foresee this being a problem not long from now with Merino. He looks a decent player but I just struggle to be very impressed by him. I give him leeway because of injury and lack of match fitness but he's not especially creative and seems to be a bit of a bootleg Rice who can play further forward. While Lewis-Skelly is earning his dues having to cosplay Zinchenko, a role he's doing quite well but a role that's not quite getting the best out of him in terms of his unique dribbling skills and his ability to dominate physically in a midfield battle (despite his inverting).

I think he's a perfect Rice foil - he's got far more potential as a passer and in the first phase, and he can move ahead of him if necessary. Both players are good ball-winners and contest a lot of duels. Rice hasn't really had a great season so far, been quite mid if I'm honest, but I think a return to the 6 role alongside a Lewis-Skelly at left 8 is as close to ideal as I'd like to be honest. That'll probably take a while to come to but that's what I want to see. Calafiore-Rice-LewisSkelly-Martinelli all dovetailing in that area sounds good to me.
 

GoonerJeeves

Established Member

Country: Norway
If I may be blunt, I foresee this being a problem not long from now with Merino. He looks a decent player but I just struggle to be very impressed by him. I give him leeway because of injury and lack of match fitness but he's not especially creative and seems to be a bit of a bootleg Rice who can play further forward. While Lewis-Skelly is earning his dues having to cosplay Zinchenko, a role he's doing quite well but a role that's not quite getting the best out of him in terms of his unique dribbling skills and his ability to dominate physically in a midfield battle (despite his inverting).

I think he's a perfect Rice foil - he's got far more potential as a passer and in the first phase, and he can move ahead of him if necessary. Both players are good ball-winners and contest a lot of duels. Rice hasn't really had a great season so far, been quite mid if I'm honest, but I think a return to the 6 role alongside a Lewis-Skelly at left 8 is as close to ideal as I'd like to be honest. That'll probably take a while to come to but that's what I want to see. Calafiore-Rice-LewisSkelly-Martinelli all dovetailing in that area sounds good to me.
As I said in the Nwaneri thread, I think Arteta putting him in the inverted fullback role might prove a blessing in disguise. It will give Arteta "ownership" to the project, and it might lead him to play him more.

We'll see, right now, I'd be more optimistic about MLS' chances than Nwaneri, but you know both players better than I do.
 

MutableEarth

Reiss' Dad
What I'm reading here is a talented player who is naturally a midfielder, but is being deployed & coached by Arteta as a FB, because he's pretty versatile.

Hmmm....this story sounds familiar ! Can't recall if it had a happy ending or not tho....

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Precisely my concerns

I will die on this hill but Maitland-Niles' potential died the day they made him a full-back.
 

bakaboo

Active Member
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Precisely my concerns

I will die on this hill but Maitland-Niles' potential died the day they made him a full-back.

Frankly speaking, he make his name as a wingback/fb. And his refusal to play there and prefer his Fav CM Role made him look for opportunity elsewhere
 

MutableEarth

Reiss' Dad
Other than Salah's goal, he was pretty good when he came on and helped the build-up/attack a bit better than Timber did. There's a really good moment where he is surrounded by 3 players and just flicks it between all of them to Rice and sets up an attack.

Shame he lost Salah for the goal but think that had more to do with the swiftness of Liverpool's counter and Martinelli's poor play.
 

Bagels

Well-Known Member

Country: Canada
. There's a really good moment where he is surrounded by 3 players and just flicks it between all of them to Rice and sets up an attack.
I like MLS a lot, but this moment raised my confidence in him a ton. Cooler heads prevail. He has all the talent and athleticism, but with that kind of composure and decision making he will be a force.
 

MutableEarth

Reiss' Dad
I like MLS a lot, but this moment raised my confidence in him a ton. Cooler heads prevail. He has all the talent and athleticism, but with that kind of composure and decision making he will be a force.
Yeah, I really liked that moment, and at a time when the game was on a knife edge. He's definitely making a case for himself to play even more minutes than he's playing.
 

Batman

Head of Wayne foundation for benching Zinchenko

Country: USA

Player:Saliba
Other than Salah's goal, he was pretty good when he came on and helped the build-up/attack a bit better than Timber did. There's a really good moment where he is surrounded by 3 players and just flicks it between all of them to Rice and sets up an attack.

Shame he lost Salah for the goal but think that had more to do with the swiftness of Liverpool's counter and Martinelli's poor play.
He's got it. You can see it. Nothing phases him. He's one of those players that you see like a Fabregas where his awareness of where everyone is before he receives the ball is so good that he always seem to have time even when you think he maybe shouldn't. He looks more comfortable receiving the ball in a crowd and doing something with it immediately than Rice does.

I think his part in the goal was more the nature of what we ask the LB to do in possession than anything he did individually wrong. Timber is probably the only guy in the squad who plays there that would have been able to recover quickly enough to be better positioned to stop Salah and if Gabriel and Saliba are out there we probably cut that transition out better. I was so pleased with him today. It takes real bravery to go and put in the cameo he did.
 

RunTheTrap

Says Aesthetics Merchants, but really means Trilly
He is probably ahead of Nwaneri when it comes to Arteta's trust because nothing turns the coach on like another inverted left-back at his disposal. However, due to the position that he plays, MLS errors are more costly than Nwaneri's. I'm not saying it is his fault, but this is the second time this season MLS has come on and we have conceded shortly after. I must stress that these goals are not down to MLS per se, but his inclusion in the first team means partnerships in the defence will be affected. The goal today was a result of a breakdown of communication between him and Kiwior, for example.

Anyway, I want to see MLS in midfield against Preston. A game like that will benefit him more than playing left-back in the Prem, IMO.
 

MutableEarth

Reiss' Dad
He's got it. You can see it. Nothing phases him. He's one of those players that you see like a Fabregas where his awareness of where everyone is before he receives the ball is so good that he always seem to have time even when you think he maybe shouldn't. He looks more comfortable receiving the ball in a crowd and doing something with it immediately than Rice does.

I think his part in the goal was more the nature of what we ask the LB to do in possession than anything he did individually wrong. Timber is probably the only guy in the squad who plays there that would have been able to recover quickly enough to be better positioned to stop Salah and if Gabriel and Saliba are out there we probably cut that transition out better. I was so pleased with him today. It takes real bravery to go and put in the cameo he did.
I agree. I've long said that Lewis-Skelly has X-factor in the same vein as Nwaneri and he has the character to match his considerable ability. It's slightly bittersweet that he's having to do it in a role that I feel isn't particularly beneficial for him but it bodes well that he's adapting to such an intricate role at his young age and showing his quality in spite of it. Definitely feel that the more minutes he plays, the more he's going to start dominating the first phases.

He is probably ahead of Nwaneri when it comes to Arteta's trust because nothing turns the coach on like another inverted left-back at his disposal. However, due to the position that he plays, MLS errors are more costly than Nwaneri's. I'm not saying it is his fault, but this is the second time this season MLS has come on and we have conceded shortly after. I must stress that these goals are not down to MLS per se, but his inclusion in the first team means partnerships in the defence will be affected. The goal today was a result of a breakdown of communication between him and Kiwior, for example.

Anyway, I want to see MLS in midfield against Preston. A game like that will benefit him more than playing left-back in the Prem, IMO.
That's definitely a game for Zinchenko at LB with Lewis-Skelly playing as the left 8. I'd rotate the whole midfield and have Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri as the 8s. Think that'd be a great platform for Lewis-Skelly.
 

Yousif Arsenal

Was on Vinai's payroll; misses 4th place trophy 🏆
Arteta already putting him ahead of kiwi and Zinchenko in picking order he pick him ahead of Poland first choice cb and Ukraine first lb you don't know how big this is.

Nwaneri also got nice 15 minutes today against title rival and came on ahead of sterling too. Arteta seem happy what he seeing in training
 

hydrofluoric acid

Down With the Refereearchy

Country: Iceland
Arteta really has a lot of time to develop young players. Saka being his crown jewel of course but Martinelli has got a lot of time. Nketiah, ESR and Nelson were here longer than they would be under any other manager. Countless of debuts and now Nwaneri and MLS are getting a lot of time and involvement.
 

SA Gunner

AM's InvertTheWing
Moderator

Country: South Africa
That pass to Rice late on in the game, where he took out 3 Liverpool players under such composure, ****ing brilliant.

Think someone said this before, and Im beginning to believe it. This could be our successor to TP5 in the six.
 

lomekian

Essays are my thing
I will die on this hill but Maitland-Niles' potential died the day they made him a full-back.
AMN's problem is that he was never a 90 minute player in terms of focus and concentration. I too felt he should have got more midfield time, but I can see why coaches might not have been keen, as he had a habit of out of nowhere playing loose passes in central areas. AMN has always been a bit of a street footballer - amazing physical and technical gifts but not the mentality for the very top level. Personally I would have tried harder to keep him as a swiss army knife, but he was caught between not having quite the technical level to be a winger at the elite level, not quite the vision to be an attacking midfielder, not quite the focus to be a DM and not quite the defensive chops positionally (despite being excellent 1 on 1) to be a full back at the elite level.

I reckon in the 80s, 90s he would have absolutely killed it in central midfield, but the tactical side of his game wasn't quite strong enough for the current elite level.

MLS seems less loose in his style and naturally more intense/driven. Might not be as talented, but looks to be the kind of personality Arteta loves.
 

lomekian

Essays are my thing
Other than Salah's goal, he was pretty good when he came on and helped the build-up/attack a bit better than Timber did. There's a really good moment where he is surrounded by 3 players and just flicks it between all of them to Rice and sets up an attack.

Shame he lost Salah for the goal but think that had more to do with the swiftness of Liverpool's counter and Martinelli's poor play.
And Kiwior not dropping off to cover.
 

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