KrissKringle
Reinventing VAR 😡
Weak counter, mate. Try again.
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Nabil Fekir
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Country: Scotland
Lucky we are mid table then.
GDeep™
League is very weak
We were talking the Özil lazy narrative. I’m just saying not every player is meant to be someone who puts in a defensive shift too.
Even then, the Özil numbers at Arsenal were always high for most ground covered etc.
GDeep™
League is very weak
That’s my point.
14Henry
Looking for receipts 👀
The ship will have sailed when he's 28 when he is signing for us on 150k a week, 1 last big contract and who has been playing in holiday mode in Betis for the last year or two.
Country: Scotland
My point also. We are in agreement. Must be one of the few times in years we have agreed. This is an historic day that should be preserved for eternity.
KrissKringle
Reinventing VAR 😡
It's not a narrative if Wenger himself admitted that.
There's a difference between covering ground in a concentrated effort vs walking or jogging.
Country: Scotland
150k pw. Sign him up as that's cheaper than I thought
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Country: Canada
He was always at the top of sprint stats. No player is going to cover a lot of ground vs others if they are moving slowly.
ragnarock
Active Member
Players with high sprint distance might walk/jog more than others to recover between actions though. Total distance covered (regardless of speed) over 90 minutes is generally a “poor” indicator of external load since provides no context as to how you covered that distance.
KrissKringle
Reinventing VAR 😡
Sprinting to the ATM on payday maybe.
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- #572
Country: Canada
ok but he was also at the top of sprint stats, meaning he was sprinting a lot compared to other players
14Henry
Looking for receipts 👀
You not be saying that when he's 6kg overweight like he looks in la liga.150k pw. Sign him up as that's cheaper than I thought
TromsoGooner
Obsessed With Looking for Eric
Some people will only consider players like Flamini hard working. Always tracking runners,making tackles and putting himself about. Özil didn't do that but was constantly to create space for himself and others. Both Flamini and Özil were hard working players,just in different ways. As you and GDeep point out,the stats prove it
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- #575
Country: Canada
Exactly, he was one of the hardest workers in attack. Always sprinting into space and working to optimise our attacking shape.
ragnarock
Active Member
Cool. Just speaking in general terms, not regarding Özil.
ragnarock
Active Member
That’s why judging players performance on physical data is fundamentally flawed. It’s a decent proxy for load (relative to the individual players “norm”) but says nothing about actual (football) performance.
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- #578
Country: Canada
Sure, but the claim was that he was lazy. You of course have to look deeper to gauge overall performance.
I think it's pretty well documented he could be lazy in training, but he always did work hard for the team during matches.
HairSprayGooners
My brother posted it ⏩
Big difference between players that run around aimlessly and players who actually make meaningful runs out of possession. Özil didn't make meaningful pressing runs at all.
Monstar-Gunn4r
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He ran a lot but was extremely selfish, he would nearly always look to be in space to receive the ball which is normally good, but hed take up space where other players were trying to play meanwhile we would have nobody centrally which resulted in a lot of tippy tappy football going nowhere. His inability to beat players or operate in tight spaces while not tackling was horrible to watch at times.
A lot of managers copped his limitations as a player and ensured he never got the space he needed to do what he did best. By the end of Wenger's career at Arsenal he was just stat moving the ball along without contributing to the attack or the defence. This resulted in a lot of hate directed his way, but he was also making a massive deal of not being played even though he was doing sweet fk all on the pitch. He was fairly entitled and not inclined to put the effort in on the side of the game he didnt like.
