Nicolas Pepe: 2019/20 Performances

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Aevi, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    We have to forget the fee. It’s somewhat arbitrary anyway given 80% of it is structured payments.

    Truth is even players who’ve done it in the champions league like Falcao and Di Maria looked **** in the PL compared to France with fewer physical demands and lesser intensity.

    Only thing we know is he’ll need to develop more power. Confidence is bound to dissipate when you get brushed off the ball with ease every time you come into contact with it.
     
  2. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    My gripe is his body language and languidness. Sometimes it geniunely looks like he is not that bothered.

    But like yourself I have faith in him, our system is not helping any creative players and not supplying them in dangerous positions.
     
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  3. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    Emery being a bum aside, that 2v1 that he completely botched was really disappointing.

    Still have faith though, Pepe kind of reminds me of Salah and Mane, I can see why Klopp wanted him at Liverpool.

    I see no reason why he couldn’t be as good as those two tbh. Just need the attacking set up and same kind of chances created for him. He’s already a better dribbler, technically anyway.

    Also it was really and I mean really poor of Emery to drop him as he came into form. Haters will say what form? But it was clear he was starting to look a lot more confident and effective before he was dropped.
     
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  4. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Somebody pointed this out, Emery plays him in a way where he expects Pepe to pick the ball up halfway and drive at the opposition, usually on his own. At Lille the system was setup in such a way that the aim was to get Pepe the ball in the final third and he didn't have to worry too much about the process up until that point apart from his own movement and positioning so he could receive the ball in a dangerous area.

    As for him squandering opportunities, his confidence is completely gone, it'll take some work to get it back up again.
     
  5. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    Our next Henry! WOW!
     
  6. APierre

    APierre You Wanna Come Out Here?

    Benching him when he’s finally starting to hit form isn’t exactly helping.
     
  7. Underhill

    Underhill Well-Known Member

    This is my take on it. He has shown plenty of quality already in France and internationally. He doesn't strike me as the kind of player that would struggle with the speed or physicality of this league.
     
  8. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    The reason nobody remembers is because he scored some tap ins and was largely unremarkable in that tournament. He then flopped massively at Juventus and was allowed to leave for Arsenal because they felt they had wasted money on him. Those were his credentials. I'm not saying Pepe is going to have that same level of turnaround but let's not act like great players can't get off to a rough start and then change their fortunes.
     
  9. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    :lol:

    I understand you're trying to make a point about Pepe but the guff about Henry isn't doing you justice.

    He was an important player for one of the best french teams of all time and helped them reach the World Cup final as well as helping Monaco reach the Champions League semi final at the age of 20.

    He only made 16 appearances for Juve. Several of them as a wing back. Wenger knew him from Monaco and understood how to motivate him.

    His slow start was under very different circumstances. To write Pepe off is silly but his learning curve, and yes his credentials are nowhere near Henry's at the same stage.
     
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  10. Riou

    Riou Nostalgia Merchant

    I wasn’t fan of Arsenal pre-Henry, but I am a football nerd and I love doing research, especially on Titi who is my favourite player.

    Wasn’t he one of France’s best youngsters back in 1998...he looked a pretty damn fine winger, obviously better upfront, but looked very exciting playing wide left...he played for one of Monaco’s best ever teams from what 1996-1999, winning the league and getting to the semis of both the Champions League and Uefa Cup...he is one of the best young players in the old Championship Manager games too around this time!

    Plus, I stil think he played a lot of minutes during their 1998 World Cup win and was their top scorer, scored a penalty in their quarterfinal over Italy too.

    Henry was definitely a more accomplished player than Pepe when he arrived...wish Pepe was playing in a better Arsenal team though, as he is getting tasked with doing too much in this poor one.
     
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  11. TheEconomist

    TheEconomist Well-Known Member

    If someone like Sterling can develop into a player that can terrorise defences I think Pepe can definitely do that same. I read somewhere that Arteta was instrumental in helping Sterling reach a new level. Not that Arteta is necessarily the answer, but I think he can be our best player if he gets the right help
     
  12. Taylor Gang Gunners

    Taylor Gang Gunners Shame is a dish best served cold Trusted

    Even Salah would struggle to do what is being asked if Pepe every week. If you watch Salah play, taking on his man isn’t one of his strengths, in fact I’d say Pepe is actually better in that regard.

    But Salah receives the ball in dangerous areas and uses his quality to punish teams. Pepe rarely receives the ball in places where he can really hurt the opposition. The only attacker who does really is Aubameyang.

    Forgive me for the clip but Mourinho analyses Pepe quite well having watched him extensively in France;



    It’s baffling that everyone and their dog seems to know what to do to make our attacking function correctly. Everyone but our ****ing “head coach.”
     
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  13. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    It's alarm bell time yup . You always tend to learn something new with great coaches , with Emery what you see is what you get , crap .
     
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  14. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    A player I labelled a Gervinho 2.0 but one I'm happy to give time to as he clearly has talent and his price tag dictates we need patience.

    He has to play high and wide with a full back making under lapping runs blocking defenders off. Its just a shame we dont see him regularly in that position to either cut in on his left or to play a cut ball to the full back.

    A player that hopefully benefits from a change of management.
     
  15. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant

    What's the point in commenting on anyone's form in this Emery team.

    Emery makes a team worse than the sum of its parts
     
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  16. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Yup. Henry came here with a decent CV.

    He joined the Clarefontaine academy at 13. The same year as Anelka and Saha and was educated there for 2/3 years. When he made his debut at Monaco, they were among the best teams in Ligue 1, with Wenger already their first team coach and playing top level European competition. He was one of the most sought after players in the world. He'd won major titles and played 5 seasons at the highest level.

    None of that guarantees anything but it certainly meant we weren't taking as big a risk with him as we were with Pepe. Henry had 1 bad season in his career before Arsenal, Pepe had 1 great season. That's the biggest difference. Not a criticism just a fact.

    Pepe has only really had 2 full seasons of top flight football in his career. He came up through lower leagues, and never worked with the world class coaches and players that Henry did.

    Again, that doesn't mean he can't become a world class footballer. He just has to put in a lot more work to do so, because he's starting from quite a bit further back. I just wish he had a better environment in which to acclimatise.
     
  17. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz No Longer Phallus Obsessed

    I believe in him, think he has a very high ceiling. A ceiling that will never be reached with Emery around, though. Our most exciting player!
     
  18. Flying Okapis

    Flying Okapis Most Well-Known Member

    As much as I agree with what you're saying some of these players need to pull their ****ing finger out and just get on with it.

    Yes morale may be low and they have a dick of a 'head coach' but they should be putting in more effort, suppose that goes against the objective of getting rid of him though.

    It annoys me less than Emery and I'd rather he got sacked but it still pisses me off that alot of these players cant even do the simple thing of 'put in a shift' and I don't think that should be forgotten post Emery.

    Yeah his game plan is ****e etc but effort isnt too much to ask from a professional athlete.

    (Not a rant at Pepe, just a general observation in the wrong thread)
     
  19. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    In another words, we never needed a player like Pepe when we already have Auba. Perhaps we will get to see Pepe at his best after we sell Auba next summer.
     
  20. freeglennhelder2

    freeglennhelder2 Well-Known Member

    Pepe was clean through in the last game at 1-1.

    He could have taken the shot and tried to score, maybe we would have won the game and ultimately led to Emery getting the rest of the season

    Not all heroes wear capes, some wear the number nineteen.
     

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