Noni Madueke: There's Noni To Be Upset

[AndItsArsenal]

Elanga has been poor for Newcastle, on the bench a lot.

 

[matthewuk12000]

Elanga has been poor for Newcastle, on the bench a lot.

yeah but he has 50% more minutes than Noni and cost more. This shows Noni was ok Value.

 

[Trilly]

Looks sharp. Impressed with his last two starts.

If this was Pep yeah, under Arteta I’m not sure he does that.

 

[Bloodbather]

If Madueke improves his productivity, he'll be ahead of Saka. Tough but that's football

No chance. Saka is huge for our creativity overall.

If Madueke does enter the main starting lineup, it'll be with Saka on the left.

 

[Jovi]

If Madueke improves his productivity, he'll be ahead of Saka. Tough but that's football

That's exactly what I've been thinking. Madueke has arguably had a better season so far. Saka has scored the goals though.

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

Decision making is what separates a Saka from a Madueke.

You can improve it was experience but a lot of it is instinctive. Saka makes the right decision 9/10 and has done since he broke through.

Madueke doesn't to anywhere near the same extent. It's no knock on him, I was a proponent of signing him and are glad we did.

Is exceptionally unlikely he'll ever be a consistent player though.

 

[GoonerJay24]

No chance. Saka is huge for our creativity overall.

If Madueke does enter the main starting lineup, it'll be with Saka on the left.

This could work. I have to say though, I really like Madueke as the RW

 

[AndItsArsenal]

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Why are we always having this Player X vs Player Y discussions. They're both quality but for me Saka has the larger body of top quality work for us, so he starts and Madueke will still get plenty of minutes. Good problem to have.

 

[ArsenalInMyHeart]

 

[Dokaka]

No chance. Saka is huge for our creativity overall.

If Madueke does enter the main starting lineup, it'll be with Saka on the left.

Called for this in the summer but let's just say there wasn't much positivity around Madueke at the time I fully understand people hesitant about making Saka "sacrifice" anything at all given his popularity and all that, but sometimes it's just the best thing for the team.

I rate Saka incredibly highly which is why I don't see the problem in moving him to the left side. Sure you might see like a (arbitrary numbers here) 5% dropoff or something but his game is much more suited to that type of winger game than Madueke. It reminds me a lot of when we had Kudus. He was so obviously better on the right than on the left and given Bowen could do a proper job at CF, Bowen was the one that was moved despite being our best attacker. All the hype Kudus got came from him playing on the right.

Hell all you have to do is look at someone like Rooney, the guy could bang 30 goals a season as the main outlet up front but so often he was shifted around in his position/role depending on the squad makeup and it made everyone around him better.

 

[Buhry]

Called for this in the summer but let's just say there wasn't much positivity around Madueke at the time I fully understand people hesitant about making Saka "sacrifice" anything at all given his popularity and all that, but sometimes it's just the best thing for the team.

I rate Saka incredibly highly which is why I don't see the problem in moving him to the left side. Sure you might see like a (arbitrary numbers here) 5% dropoff or something but his game is much more suited to that type of winger game than Madueke. It reminds me a lot of when we had Kudus. He was so obviously better on the right than on the left and given Bowen could do a proper job at CF, Bowen was the one that was moved despite being our best attacker. All the hype Kudus got came from him playing on the right.

Hell all you have to do is look at someone like Rooney, the guy could bang 30 goals a season as the main outlet up front but so often he was shifted around in his position/role depending on the squad makeup and it made everyone around him better.

Saka seems like he could actually do a good job on the left, he has played there in the past. He is a great crosser and a very clever player. And he doesn't cut in and score that many goals, not enough anway imo. Noni on the other hand looks lost on the left and ineffective. So if we want them both in the team in some games it needs to be Saka on the left for me.

 

[Gooner Zig]

Noni doesn't have a the end product to justify switching Saka.

 

[TakeChillPill]

Should be starting on Saturday, deserves a start, Saka needs real compition and raise his level.

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Been thinking more about Noni's "easy" goal, actually think now its very good anticipation.

Look where he and the defender were as the ball was played



Vs where they both ended up



He's gained yards on the defender just through elite movement.

 

[Batman]

Noni doesn't have a the end product to justify switching Saka.

It's not as simple as end product. It's about synergy and what makes the attack function best. Nobody has ever had the end product to justify moving Messi but he's moved to different positions in different squads based on how to best make that team go.

Saka also looks good on the left. One of his best goals this season came on the left and he has absolutely no issues beating has man there just like he does on the right in addition to it putting him in a position to do what he's best at more which is fire in accurate crosses on his left foot. There's also nothing preventing them switching flanks throughout a match.

 

[Gooner Zig]

It's not as simple as end product. It's about synergy and what makes the attack function best. Nobody has ever had the end product to justify moving Messi but he's moved to different positions in different squads based on how to best make that team go.

Saka also looks good on the left. One of his best goals this season came on the left and he has absolutely no issues beating has man there just like he does on the right in addition to it putting him in a position to do what he's best at more which is fire in accurate crosses on his left foot. There's also nothing preventing them switching flanks throughout a match.

I would like to see it, especially if they would swap wings from time to time but I don't think Noni (at this stage) is decent enough for it to be a full time strategy

 

[Trilly]

I would like to see it, especially if they would swap wings from time to time but I don't think Noni (at this stage) is decent enough for it to be a full time strategy

Especially with Trossard on fire.

I view Saka as being equally effective on either side (maybe time will prove this to be wrong but for now let’s say he is) so which side we play him on basically depends on which of the other wingers is in the best form.

If Noni’s on fire then it’s Saka left wing with interchanging throughout the game. If it’s Trossard or Nelli then it’s the usual system.

 

[Halcyon Daze]

If Noni’s on fire then it’s Saka left wing with interchanging throughout the game.

This is an important point for me. For example Saka got switched during the game and ended up on the left against Olympiakos. I’m all up for instilling unpredictability and switching wings, because it’s fair to say we can be predictable.

 

[viktor]