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Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang: From Thriller To Bad, Should He Just Beat It?

Camus

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What did laca do? Both should be dropped but hey it's all auba
I agree that all things being equal all players should be judged equally. But things aren't equal, as much as some people don't want to admit it there are outside factors beyond on-field performances that dictate the harshness of the critique that a player receives.

In this case Lacazette didn't spend almost half a season dragging out contract negotiations to get a bumper payday only to then turn to poo after getting what he wanted. That was Auba. And it's going to have an impact on how people perceive him. He wanted top dog money he has to perform like a top dog.
 

Pop Tart

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I agree that all things being equal all players should be judged equally. But things aren't equal, as much as some people don't want to admit it there are outside factors beyond on-field performances that dictate the harshness of the critique that a player receives.

In this case Lacazette didn't spend almost half a season dragging out contract negotiations to get a bumper payday only to then turn to poo after getting what he wanted. That was Auba. And it's going to have an impact on how people perceive him. He wanted top dog money he has to perform like a top dog.
I get your point and agree with it but at least auba has credit in the bank. Laca has been hopeless his whole career here.
 

Maybe

You're wrong, no?
I get your point and agree with it but at least auba has credit in the bank. Laca has been hopeless his whole career here.
Vieira didn't have that credit in the bank, he was sold while still being a club legend so we could promote Fabregas. Auba is not 5% of what Vieira was for this club
 

MutableEarth

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I knew he would do badly on the wing today. Especially when Tierney came off, was too easy to push Liverpool back. ESR was a huge miss today, arguably more than Saka was. He would have exploited the space very well and been good enough on the ball to contribute. This is a game where I would have even preferred Willian (🤮) to go down the left today.
 

Pop Tart

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Vieira didn't have that credit in the bank, he was sold while still being a club legend so we could promote Fabregas. Auba is not 5% of what Vieira was for this club
Yes of course but his goals since before this season have been high and he was vital to cup win. Laca not so much but I am for him going if he continues this run and not giving a **** but it be hard to get rid now
 

Gunners1616

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Probably one of the worst captain of our recent history (and we've had special ones).

Now that he has signed his contract he doesn't seems to care so much anymore... We've seen this story before.

We really need to get rid of that front three Auba/Laca/Pepe while they have some value. Focus on Saka, Ødegaard (if he stays), ESR, Martinelli and add actual 1 or 2 consistent talents.
 

ThePortugueseGunner

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1. Terrible attitude for a captain, and for a player of his ability. He shows no passion, no leadership and, honestly, he doesn't even look like he wants to be on the field. What a hard life he must have, earning so little to do so much...

2. Besides all this, it's actually not his fault that his manager isolates him on the left-wing. You can blame the player for a while, but if you look at it, it's also Arteta's fault. If Auba is to start, start him at striker. If not (whatever the reason might be), just bench him. This is just ridiculous, he literally can't produce there.
 

Football Manager

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Told us what?
This
Just look at how Citi plays. They have a team of creative players. It does not matter who is finishing the chances, because if you create enough of them, your team WILL score a lot of goals.

We need a skillful striker, someone like Suarez/Firmino/Van Persie/Sanchez, or can be a Ødegaard with better finishing (you know what I mean). Someone who could work well with other technical players in the team. Auba, Nketiah or even Laca, are too much of a poacher to me. They are not skillful enough.

Having Auba on the pitch means one less player in the build up, less possession, less chances created, more possession lost, more opportunities for the opponent to counter attack.

In other words, if auba plays, we will struggle to create chances, simply because we have one less creative player on the pitch playing against the same number of opponent defenders. And more importantly, it does not only reduce the number of chances we create, the quality of our chances will also be lowered (having 4 creative players vs a block of defenders, is very different to having 5 creative players against a block of defenders).

I would rather have the above mentioned striker scoring no goals for the season, than a 30 goals Auba. Because it means we would have a much more dangerous attacking force. Just watch how Citi plays this season.

Citi could have anyone playing the striker role, could be KDB or anyone, and the striker don’t have to score a lot. The main point is, their whole team is creating plenty of chances. The rest just comes down to having anyone to simply get into the box at the end and tap-in an easy goal. Top finishing ability is not even required.
 

Football Manager

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Told us what?
And also this.
People have been asking why Auba was not scoring enough. They asked how many goals would Pepe score this season. They compare the scoring stats of Laca to strikers in other teams........

These questions doesn’t mean much to me. In fact, it’s not just down to the individual performance of the player you questioned. If your team have created enough chances, your attacking players WILL score.

It’s the fact that we do not have enough creative talent in the team, which has limited the quantity and quality of chances we created.

So my criticism is not that these players are not performing (on an individual level), but rather, they are not a creative player so they have limited our chance creation.
Football Manager said:
There is no place for poacher in modern football. What’s the point of having a great goal scorer but he is useless in the remaining 87 minutes? Why not having someone who could contribute a lot in the build up while also good at finishing? (I know these players comes expensive, but my point is, modern football demand strikers to be more than just scoring goals).

After all, it’s not just about finishing. Just look at City. If you have enough creative players to create plenty of high quality chances, you just need anyone to get into the box to make an easy tap-in. They don’t have to be world class finishers. Auba in the team is limiting the quantity and quality of our chance creation, simply because we are one man down in the build up/chance creation process, we are less capable to break a solid defence down.
Football Manager said:
There are only few moments in a match that a striker would score goals. How about the other 87 minutes? Being useless in those minutes?

Strikers are also responsible for creating overload, making good combination passing play in the build up, dribbling defenders to create your own space/chance...basically creating possession/chances, and also helping with pressing if needed.

Auba is a great goal scorer, but he is useless in the other 87 minutes. Having a better footballer in the team instead of auba, who would contribute in those minutes would massively improve the quality/quantity of our chance creation.

Just look at City, if you create enough chances, your attacking players WILL score goals. You don’t even have to have a striker. Or the player in the striker position don’t even have to score many.
 

Football Manager

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Football is more than just doing nothing for the 87 minutes, and then make a great final pass/finish a great goal.

In these minutes, you have to
1) get the team from your own box to the half way line
2) from the half way line to the opponent box
3) finding a way to break down the opponent defence
4) to pass the ball into the 6 yard box with your striker unmarked.
5) finish the chance

Without 1) to 4), how could you possibly going to get 5)?

Look at how we struggle to even get across the half way line against liverpool. We need more technical/skillful players in the team, with better passing ability, close control.....in order to complete 1) to 4), creating chances after chances.

Having auba and laca on the pitch is like 2 man down in that process, that’s why we failed to create anything.

If you create enough quality chances, your team WILL score. And it does not even require good finishing ability. Anyone can finish off those chances.

I was against the signing of auba, laca and Özil back then. And never liked Nketiah. Simply because they are the type of players who are only good at 5) (near the final stage of getting the goal). But they are completely useless in the other 87 minutes. We need more Sanchez, Van Persie, Cazorla, Nasri, Hleb, Fabregas, Arshavin, Rosicky.....who would make huge impact in creating space/possession/chances/break down opponent’s defence, before we arrived the opponent box.
 
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